# AI color matching with color lab **URL:** \ **Category:** Logik Announcements\ **Tags:** color, machine-learning\ **Created:** [September 17, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ai-color-matching-with-color-lab/778 "2020-09-17T19:00:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![space\_monkey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/space_monkey/32/49_2.png) [@space\_monkey](https://forum.logik.tv/u/space_monkey)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ai-color-matching-with-color-lab/778/1 "2020-09-17T19:00:37Z")
Just watched this amazing demo of Color Lab, machine learning for davinci . I know another app but this is something we need asap. just skip the first twenty mins or so and it gets into the application [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/1X/2c4e05a6ff590f3ca6fb97cdb0348f795d82087b.jpeg "Color Intelligence - New Products Announcement Event") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjUsIPhNGnk) ---
**Author:** ![space\_monkey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/space_monkey/32/49_2.png) [@space\_monkey](https://forum.logik.tv/u/space_monkey)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ai-color-matching-with-color-lab/778/2 "2020-09-17T19:06:15Z")
Please vote this feature up FI-02416 ---
**Author:** ![val](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e56c9b/32.png) [@val](https://forum.logik.tv/u/val)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ai-color-matching-with-color-lab/778/3 "2020-09-17T19:07:01Z")
I was not impressed. I mean the idea is good, but technology is not there yet. Just my 2c ---
**Author:** ![space\_monkey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/space_monkey/32/49_2.png) [@space\_monkey](https://forum.logik.tv/u/space_monkey)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ai-color-matching-with-color-lab/778/4 "2020-09-17T19:09:07Z")
show me tool in flame that comes even close? ---
**Author:** ![greg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/greg/32/1185_2.png) [@greg](https://forum.logik.tv/u/greg)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ai-color-matching-with-color-lab/778/5 "2020-09-17T19:15:45Z")
Yeah, I agree. I got excited when I heard “AI Color Matching” and I thought that it meant that it would match the look between shots that have different lighting conditions or different cameras, but from what I could tell, it just analyzes a reference and generates a CDL to get the same mood. That’s basically like buying some LUT presets. Not that useful. ---
**Author:** ![val](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e56c9b/32.png) [@val](https://forum.logik.tv/u/val)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ai-color-matching-with-color-lab/778/6 "2020-09-17T19:15:57Z")
Master grade + colorist? ---
**Author:** ![greg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/greg/32/1185_2.png) [@greg](https://forum.logik.tv/u/greg)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ai-color-matching-with-color-lab/778/7 "2020-09-17T19:18:50Z")
I’m fairly certain this will work with Flame. From what I could tell, it has integration with Resolve but isn’t a Resolve only tool. ---
**Author:** ![val](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e56c9b/32.png) [@val](https://forum.logik.tv/u/val)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ai-color-matching-with-color-lab/778/8 "2020-09-17T19:23:31Z")
Fully agree. CDL (Look node in Flame) is basicly Gamma/Pedistal/Gain + saturation. I`d say it very limited toolset. Only real application area would be daylies/proxies creation. This is not a usual Flame usage. Also I`d say if junior daylies colorist would be replaced with AI - what should they trained on? ---
**Author:** ![space\_monkey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/space_monkey/32/49_2.png) [@space\_monkey](https://forum.logik.tv/u/space_monkey)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ai-color-matching-with-color-lab/778/9 "2020-09-17T20:28:34Z")
I am super confused because what I saw was loading a ton of shots a reference and with the press of one button it color matches that plate, which with flames very primitive color tools would take a while to do, matches all the shots and gives you a bunch of other close looks to choose from , I don’t know about you all but this would save me a lot of time over the course of a day, so yea I am excited ---
**Author:** ![space\_monkey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/space_monkey/32/49_2.png) [@space\_monkey](https://forum.logik.tv/u/space_monkey)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 9:24pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ai-color-matching-with-color-lab/778/10 "2020-09-17T21:24:27Z")
this is the way I look at it, but maybe my workflow is different since I am doing shows versus commercials, but the same would apply. If I loaded the plates and said match A to B and it gets me 90% of the way there that might save me 10 mins or so but if I have 75 comps to do the time adds up and flame doesn’t do anything this fast with such simplicity as one touch of a button. ---
**Author:** ![val](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e56c9b/32.png) [@val](https://forum.logik.tv/u/val)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 4:17am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ai-color-matching-with-color-lab/778/11 "2020-09-18T04:17:44Z")
I`m colorist, so I can be a little biased in this question, but IMO this tool as it was shown has some problems 1. It tied to one camera on a show or segment (most problematic would be to match different cameras) 2. It tied to one show LUT 3. I uses CDL at it`s core (some shots can`t be match with such toolset) 4. It matched look + balace as one pass, should be separate 5. And, most importantly, even during a demo, with carefully selected shots it`s match sometime failed, IMO of course.