# All Hail the Invert Button - Intermediate Tutorial **URL:** \ **Category:** Tips and Tricks\ **Tags:** tutorial, tutorials, planar-track, invert, invertbutton\ **Created:** [November 21, 2025, 6:30pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/all-hail-the-invert-button-intermediate-tutorial/13813 "2025-11-21T18:30:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![KuleshovEffect](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/kuleshoveffect/32/4928_2.png) [@KuleshovEffect](https://forum.logik.tv/u/KuleshovEffect)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 6:30pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/all-hail-the-invert-button-intermediate-tutorial/13813/1 "2025-11-21T18:30:52Z")
I made an intermediate-level tutorial on how useful the Invert button is. Thanks to @andy_dill for the inspiration! [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/8/8505235b6acc98df31d2947a32843faa5bb7c846.jpeg "All Hail the Invert Button") ](https://vimeo.com/1139388949) -Ted ---
**Author:** ![Sinan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/sinan/32/155_2.png) [@Sinan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Sinan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 6:43pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/all-hail-the-invert-button-intermediate-tutorial/13813/2 "2025-11-21T18:43:50Z")
Wasn’t it @andy_dill who also used the invert button in the Look node? Andy “Invert” Dill ---
**Author:** ![philm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/philm/32/9286_2.png) [@philm](https://forum.logik.tv/u/philm)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/all-hail-the-invert-button-intermediate-tutorial/13813/3 "2025-11-21T19:03:37Z")
> [@Sinan](#): > > Andy “Invert” Dill `lliD_ydnA` ---
**Author:** ![andy\_dill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/andy_dill/32/47_2.png) [@andy\_dill](https://forum.logik.tv/u/andy_dill)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 7:10pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/all-hail-the-invert-button-intermediate-tutorial/13813/4 "2025-11-21T19:10:47Z")
> [@Sinan](#): > > Wasn’t it @andy_dill who also used the invert button in the Look node? All I want to do is nothing. The invert button(s) get me as close to that as I am professionally able. ---
**Author:** ![AustinCampbell](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/austincampbell/32/3469_2.png) [@AustinCampbell](https://forum.logik.tv/u/AustinCampbell)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/all-hail-the-invert-button-intermediate-tutorial/13813/5 "2025-11-21T20:18:06Z")
Solid video Ted! I believe you can do a perspective stab/unstab workflow by exporting the mocha track as stabilizer data vs. shape. ![The Office Finger Guns GIF](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/8/8e5cdc0bc44b60179ef4f3b2169b88ce26449678.gif) ---
**Author:** ![KuleshovEffect](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/kuleshoveffect/32/4928_2.png) [@KuleshovEffect](https://forum.logik.tv/u/KuleshovEffect)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 8:20pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/all-hail-the-invert-button-intermediate-tutorial/13813/6 "2025-11-21T20:20:00Z")
Ooooo, good to know!! -Ted ---
**Author:** ![Jeff](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jeff/32/9305_2.png) [@Jeff](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jeff)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 8:36pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/all-hail-the-invert-button-intermediate-tutorial/13813/7 "2025-11-21T20:36:22Z")
Ted! Great video! Very clear and very informative. For the longest time I strangely ONLY knew how to track and stabilize for shots like this with Mocha tracker data but after I learned about exactly what you showed here a few years back (possibly from Andy Dill, but I forget now), it really opened the door to using a lot more workflows which is super versatile. Great stuff. ---
**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 9:07pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/all-hail-the-invert-button-intermediate-tutorial/13813/8 "2025-11-21T21:07:48Z")
The reason I don’t like to use the invert is that I can’t see the inverted numbers. I’d rather do it with expressions. Sadly, I have yet to figure out how to invert x and y rotation. If I knew how, I would incorporate it into my repomaster. ---
**Author:** ![andy\_dill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/andy_dill/32/47_2.png) [@andy\_dill](https://forum.logik.tv/u/andy_dill)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 1:10am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/all-hail-the-invert-button-intermediate-tutorial/13813/9 "2025-11-22T01:10:24Z")
I thought the trick was to apply the X/Y/Z translation to the pivots of the inverted axis. I am now doubting that due to your post. I probably never tested X/Y rotation. Could it be some sort of super annoying thing where you have to invert the rotations one at a time with separate axisezzz(sp?) to reverse the rotation order? I know back in the day the one I could never undo was shear. I could get it square again, but the card would always be scaled down. I use the button now. I love it. ---
**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 2:09am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/all-hail-the-invert-button-intermediate-tutorial/13813/10 "2025-11-22T02:09:04Z")
I figured out sheer. Rotation seems to be a matter of order, but even using a combination of separate axes, I could never get it sorted out. I seem to remember many years ago I did it for a camera when I was trying to use my background as a foreground surface and lock it to the camera, but I never kept up with it. I eventually figured out I could just parent my surface to the camera and calculate the distance. ---
**Author:** ![CoryJohnson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee59a6/32.png) [@CoryJohnson](https://forum.logik.tv/u/CoryJohnson)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 2:48pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/all-hail-the-invert-button-intermediate-tutorial/13813/11 "2025-11-24T14:48:10Z")
> [@KuleshovEffect](#): > > I made an intermediate-level tutorial on how useful the Invert button is. > > Thanks to for the inspiration! > > -Ted Nice video! Bonus tip, there is an invert-axis script on the Logik Portal that will add an inverted axis below the selected axis, at the current frame. I’ve got this set to a hotkey, which is mapped to one of the 12 buttons on my mouse (yes mouse, there are a few of us). Quickest way to invert. Note: this script does seem to flush undo, I think because it’s actually saving and reloading the action to do the change. ---
**Author:** ![KuleshovEffect](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/kuleshoveffect/32/4928_2.png) [@KuleshovEffect](https://forum.logik.tv/u/KuleshovEffect)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 5:59pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/all-hail-the-invert-button-intermediate-tutorial/13813/12 "2025-11-24T17:59:05Z")
Is this your mouse? ![Gemini_Generated_Image_bk5ptvbk5ptvbk5p](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/f/f8b4b87adc719be9e68c7e7c06010359f1e79c6e.jpeg) Thank you for the tip, I love learning how to invert FASTER! -Ted ---
**Author:** ![CoryJohnson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee59a6/32.png) [@CoryJohnson](https://forum.logik.tv/u/CoryJohnson)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 10:43pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/all-hail-the-invert-button-intermediate-tutorial/13813/13 "2025-11-24T22:43:50Z")
Close. 12 buttons under the thumb. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_miller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbce88/32.png) [@Tim\_miller](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Tim_miller)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 11:42pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/all-hail-the-invert-button-intermediate-tutorial/13813/14 "2025-11-24T23:42:59Z")
> [@andy\_dill](#): > > All I want to do is nothing. The invert button(s) get me as close to that as I am professionally able. Technically… wouldn’t it be “Track Andy Invert Dill”