# Completely remove pre-2026 stone+wire **URL:** \ **Category:** Flame Questions\ **Tags:** project\ **Created:** [May 27, 2025, 3:34pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926 "2025-05-27T15:34:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bryanb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/bryanb/32/136_2.png) [@bryanb](https://forum.logik.tv/u/bryanb)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2025, 3:34pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926/1 "2025-05-27T15:34:36Z")
With the new database system in 2026, there are stone+wire components you don’t need anymore. Some of these were slowing down my system so I followed these steps from Autodesk Support to remove all traces of pre-2026: – Uninstall all Flame versions using the Uninstaller Application. – Open a Terminal, get root privileges. ---- sudo su ---- Remove residual Autodesk packages. ---- rm -rf /opt/Autodesk ---- rm -rf /Library/Application\ Support/Autodesk ---- rm -rf /Applications/Autodesk ---- pkgutil --pkgs | grep -i autodesk | xargs -n1 pkgutil --forget – Run the cleanCFApps.sh script located in the installer to remove the Creative Finishing application files: ---- Open the DMG installer file but do not run install yet. ---- Run the command /Volumes/Autodesk\/Install\ Flame.app/Contents/Helper/checks/cleanCFApps.sh -2 – Restart computer and Install needed Flame versions. ---
**Author:** ![allklier](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/allklier/32/4309_2.png) [@allklier](https://forum.logik.tv/u/allklier)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2025, 3:53pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926/2 "2025-05-27T15:53:44Z")
Reading through this - that sounds like instructions for Mac, correct? Is there a similar set for Linux? ---
**Author:** ![bryanb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/bryanb/32/136_2.png) [@bryanb](https://forum.logik.tv/u/bryanb)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2025, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926/3 "2025-05-27T16:25:54Z")
ah yes - sorry I forgot to say I’m on mac. I don’t know the equivalents in Linux but I think it’s just slightly different paths ---
**Author:** ![paul\_round](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/paul_round/32/389_2.png) [@paul\_round](https://forum.logik.tv/u/paul_round)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2025, 4:42pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926/4 "2025-05-27T16:42:03Z")
I’m guessing this is only if you sosnt need any previous versions ---
**Author:** ![philm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/philm/32/9286_2.png) [@philm](https://forum.logik.tv/u/philm)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2025, 4:48pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926/5 "2025-05-27T16:48:42Z")
```auto $ sudo /usr/local/bin/rmsoft --help Usage: rmsoft [option] Options: -h, --help show this help message and exit -a, --all Remove all Autodesk software -r RESUMES, --resumes=RESUMES Remove Autodesk software associated with either the resume file or the regexp string specified -k KEEP, --keep=KEEP Remove All Autodesk software except the one associated with either the resume file or the regexp string specified -f, --delete-folders Remove all autodesk FOLDER -c, --no-confirm No confirmation -g, --no-gui trigger interactive shell mode -v, --verbose verbose mode ``` [how-to-completely-remove-and-clean-flame-from-my-system](https://forum.logik.tv/t/how-to-completely-remove-and-clean-flame-from-my-system/4641/2) ---
**Author:** ![motoronlysync](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/motoronlysync/32/579_2.png) [@motoronlysync](https://forum.logik.tv/u/motoronlysync)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2025, 5:50pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926/6 "2025-05-27T17:50:56Z")
> [@bryanb](#): > > rm -rf /opt/Autodesk **Danger!** Be triple sure your archives are in order before using the above command. This command does not align with the usage of `cleanCFApps.sh -2`. ---
**Author:** ![Jonhollis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jonhollis/32/11832_2.png) [@Jonhollis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jonhollis)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2025, 6:39pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926/7 "2025-05-27T18:39:43Z")
> [@bryanb](#): > > …pkgutil --pkgs | grep -i autodesk | xargs -n1 pkgutil --forget– Run the cleanCFApps.sh script located in the installer to remove the Creative Finishing application files:---- Open the DMG installer file but do not run install yet.---- Run the command /Volumes/Autodesk\/Install\ Flame.app/Contents/Helper/checks/cleanCFApps.sh -2– Restart computer and Install needed Flame versions. do you think this will help with the problems im having with a disappearing database and generally a bit flaky! I started from a 2025 base ---
**Author:** ![Jonhollis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jonhollis/32/11832_2.png) [@Jonhollis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jonhollis)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2025, 10:24pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926/8 "2025-05-27T22:24:02Z")
So I followed your instructions. Got rid of everything. Then reinstalled 2026.01. But when I launched flame all the old projects were still there. I was hoping we were starting again. How do you start again with the database? ---
**Author:** ![philm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/philm/32/9286_2.png) [@philm](https://forum.logik.tv/u/philm)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2025, 10:27pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926/9 "2025-05-27T22:27:29Z")
@Jonhollis [database-creation](https://help-beta.autodesk.com/view/FLAME/2026/ENU/?guid=database-creation) [igniter-command-line-tool](https://help-beta.autodesk.com/view/FLAME/2026/ENU/?guid=igniter-command-line-tool) if you want to erase everything and are starting again from scratch you need to search for the [section](https://help-beta.autodesk.com/view/FLAME/2026/ENU/?guid=igniter-command-line-tool#:~:text=Destroying%20a%20database) that includes: ```auto /opt/Autodesk/bin/igniter --destroy ``` ---
**Author:** ![Jonhollis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jonhollis/32/11832_2.png) [@Jonhollis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jonhollis)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 7:28am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926/10 "2025-05-28T07:28:22Z")
And this will get rid of the new database. I was surprised after deleting everything that that was still there,. Is the Postgre basically somewhere else jh ---
**Author:** ![Jonhollis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jonhollis/32/11832_2.png) [@Jonhollis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jonhollis)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 8:07am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926/11 "2025-05-28T08:07:25Z")
Just tried this and now the new installed flame won’t launch. Unable to start PostgreSQL server ![Screenshot 2025-05-28 at 09.07.12.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/e/edfd8479bc6b9eb6fe393d8441adb226b0017987.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Jonhollis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jonhollis/32/11832_2.png) [@Jonhollis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jonhollis)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 8:58am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926/12 "2025-05-28T08:58:10Z")
Ok tried it all again. Tried the commands from Bryanb and then the igniter destroy. And now we are back with a fresh install - everything is lit green. I think my problems are elsewhere though. When I create a project occasionally in the project manager it disappears and you occasionally get a IP address invalid line come up. Then the project comes back/ I think this intermittent thing is the problem. Any ideas ---
**Author:** ![Jonhollis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jonhollis/32/11832_2.png) [@Jonhollis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jonhollis)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 9:16am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926/13 "2025-05-28T09:16:41Z")
As well as Invalid IP address I also occasionally get this ![Screenshot 2025-05-28 at 10.16.07.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/7/787e926ef7210285b97cccf8b5e2c2b244fea055.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Slabrie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7cd45c/32.png) [@Slabrie](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Slabrie)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 9:44am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926/14 "2025-05-28T09:44:19Z")
Please follow-up with our Support team ASAP as what was proposed in this thread: [Crashes galore - #39 by allklier](https://forum.logik.tv/t/crashes-galore/12698/39) ---
**Author:** ![Jonhollis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jonhollis/32/11832_2.png) [@Jonhollis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jonhollis)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 9:59am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926/15 "2025-05-28T09:59:44Z")
Hi - yes ive contacted them ---
**Author:** ![Jonhollis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jonhollis/32/11832_2.png) [@Jonhollis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jonhollis)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 4:35pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926/16 "2025-05-28T16:35:30Z")
ive contacted them but no response as yet. bearing in mind ive been without a machine all day ---
**Author:** ![Slabrie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7cd45c/32.png) [@Slabrie](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Slabrie)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 11:47am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926/17 "2025-06-04T11:47:16Z")
Hello @Jonhollis Looking at your more recent posts I guess Support have been able to debug you and you are good to go with Flame 2026? ---
**Author:** ![Jonhollis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jonhollis/32/11832_2.png) [@Jonhollis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jonhollis)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 1:24pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926/18 "2025-06-04T13:24:40Z")
Didnt get much luck with support,. first case no one answered - the second they killed it because I got the company name slightly wrong. im back in London where flame works just fine! sticking with 2026 - tons and tons of crashes though. not all of them send logs to you. mostly in type and to do with the animation window ---
**Author:** ![Jonhollis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jonhollis/32/11832_2.png) [@Jonhollis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jonhollis)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 1:32pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926/19 "2025-06-04T13:32:53Z")
but im sticking with it. ---
**Author:** ![Jonhollis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jonhollis/32/11832_2.png) [@Jonhollis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jonhollis)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 1:33pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/completely-remove-pre-2026-stone-wire/12926/20 "2025-06-04T13:33:13Z")
just need to instal Logik Projekt now