# Create convincing Sea in Flame **URL:** \ **Category:** Flame Questions\ **Created:** [December 1, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/create-convincing-sea-in-flame/4573 "2021-12-01T21:31:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mattc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@mattc](https://forum.logik.tv/u/mattc)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/create-convincing-sea-in-flame/4573/1 "2021-12-01T21:31:01Z")
Apologies if this has been asked before. I had a quick search but didn’t spot it. Has anyone found a good tool or technique for generating convincing waves in Flame? I have an aerial shot and need to extend the sea fairly significantly. But there is only a tiny portion of useable sea that I can duplicate. So probably looking to replace the lot. It’s an aerial shot from a drone if that helps. Waves fairly calm. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Sinan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/sinan/32/155_2.png) [@Sinan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Sinan)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 9:38pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/create-convincing-sea-in-flame/4573/2 "2021-12-01T21:38:05Z")
[This sea shader matchbox?](https://logik-matchbook.org/shader/JB_ocean) ---
**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 12:18am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/create-convincing-sea-in-flame/4573/3 "2021-12-02T00:18:47Z")
This is not something I’d attempt in Flame. ---
**Author:** ![DannyYoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DannyYoon](https://forum.logik.tv/u/DannyYoon)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:18am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/create-convincing-sea-in-flame/4573/4 "2021-12-02T03:18:39Z")
Do an extensive stock footage search…you may get lucky with an element that’s the same angle. My dirty little secret (when I’m desperate) is to google: After Effects tutorial. Like this: [https://www.google.com/search?q=after+effects+ocean+plugin&rlz=1C5CHFA\_enUS955US955&oq=after+effects+ocean+plugin&aqs=chrome..69i57.5904j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8](https://www.google.com/search?q=after+effects+ocean+plugin&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS955US955&oq=after+effects+ocean+plugin&aqs=chrome..69i57.5904j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8) And I translate the techniques in flame or just use AE to make an element to plugin. ---
**Author:** ![mattc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@mattc](https://forum.logik.tv/u/mattc)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 8:18am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/create-convincing-sea-in-flame/4573/5 "2021-12-02T08:18:18Z")
Yeah that was gut feeling but thought I would see if anyone had struck gold with a technique. ---
**Author:** ![mattc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@mattc](https://forum.logik.tv/u/mattc)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 8:19am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/create-convincing-sea-in-flame/4573/6 "2021-12-02T08:19:56Z")
I think stock will be my first port of call. Had a quick look yesterday and there may be some options. I just wanted to get as many options available to present and hopefully find a good solution in one or combination of them. Thanks for all the replies. ---
**Author:** ![mattc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@mattc](https://forum.logik.tv/u/mattc)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 8:20am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/create-convincing-sea-in-flame/4573/7 "2021-12-02T08:20:52Z")
is this one called ocean shader? Had a look and that’s the only one I found? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![AntonisNtelis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/antonisntelis/32/673_2.png) [@AntonisNtelis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/AntonisNtelis)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 9:05am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/create-convincing-sea-in-flame/4573/8 "2021-12-02T09:05:38Z")
You could use blender. There are a lot of tutorials 10 min tops to make stuff. Have a look [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/5/58c000b4158546fc745a8c1e324b59e019a1c8bf.jpeg "BLENDER 2.9 | How to create realistic Ocean in Blender 2.9 | for beginners | only 4 minutes") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5hEDhQ-E5U) ---
**Author:** ![Sinan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/sinan/32/155_2.png) [@Sinan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Sinan)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 9:10am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/create-convincing-sea-in-flame/4573/9 "2021-12-02T09:10:37Z")
Hi @mattc, I was away from the box when I sent the message and yes I linked to the one in [logik-matchbox.org](http://logik-matchbox.org). But now at the office, I sort of remember having used a more comprehensive version, though I can’t seem to find it… The one I remember using had more controls… Maybe it was one of the shaders [here](https://www.shadertoy.com/results?query=sea). Sorry if I misled you… ---
**Author:** ![andy\_dill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/andy_dill/32/15475_2.png) [@andy\_dill](https://forum.logik.tv/u/andy_dill)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 8:01pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/create-convincing-sea-in-flame/4573/10 "2021-12-02T20:01:02Z")
I used the heck out of Ivar’s ocean shader in my old one-frame-of-white: [http://www.oneframeofwhite.com/2018#2018-wolf](http://www.oneframeofwhite.com/2018#2018-wolf) Use the map as a displacement, apply an HDR for the reflections, apply a physical shader and you should be able to get pretty good water behavior for cheap. You could key the highlights to make foam or whitecaps. It’s never gonna be as nice as Houdini or some dedicated 3d app, but for background stuff it’s quite good. ---
**Author:** ![digitalbanshee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/digitalbanshee/32/1160_2.png) [@digitalbanshee](https://forum.logik.tv/u/digitalbanshee)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 10:22pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/create-convincing-sea-in-flame/4573/11 "2021-12-02T22:22:43Z")
heh I totally do this too! LOL ---
**Author:** ![mattc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@mattc](https://forum.logik.tv/u/mattc)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/create-convincing-sea-in-flame/4573/12 "2021-12-02T23:23:46Z")
Thanks everyone for the responses. Plenty to try here.