# Cryptomatte Spaghetti **URL:** https://forum.logik.tv/t/cryptomatte-spaghetti/4816 **Category:** Flame Questions **Created:** [January 11, 2022, 3:53am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/cryptomatte-spaghetti/4816 "2022-01-11T03:53:00Z") **Posts on this page:** 10 **Page:** 1
### Author: ![greg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/greg/32/1185_2.png) [@greg](https://forum.logik.tv/u/greg) #### Post date: [January 11, 2022, 3:53am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/cryptomatte-spaghetti/4816/1 "2022-01-11T03:53:00Z")
Is this really what my batch schematic has to look like if I bring in CG Cryptomattes? This is just making 3 mattes and I’ll probably have to make many more. I’m pretty sure I’m not doing this wrong but… am I doing this wrong? I also don’t understand why Flame requires me to manually wire up several inputs from the Crypto clip into the node. Nuke only needs one connection. But I don’t mind that nearly as much as my schematic looking like I’m going into warp speed. ![Screen Shot 2022-01-10 at 10.40.45 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/1/1052203367588d8b357d586ba5f6181cdbebf021.jpeg) ---
### Author: ![cnoellert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/cnoellert/32/559_2.png) [@cnoellert](https://forum.logik.tv/u/cnoellert) #### Post date: [January 11, 2022, 4:42am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/cryptomatte-spaghetti/4816/2 "2022-01-11T04:42:18Z")
I tend to do all of my cryptomattes off to the side of the main schematic and running combines on sets of three mattes plugged into a mux with the input hidden. Duplicate connected to wherever and it’s clean… but yeah anything with more than 3 channels in Flame blows compared to Nuke. You have to actively work to keep organized. Ps. Colormanage those fulls to half’s to avoid random bullshit problems down the line with incompatible nodes. ---
### Author: ![kyleobley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/df788c/32.png) [@kyleobley](https://forum.logik.tv/u/kyleobley) #### Post date: [January 11, 2022, 6:16am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/cryptomatte-spaghetti/4816/3 "2022-01-11T06:16:18Z")
I have the same feeling. I made a feature request that touches on that among a few other usability issues. [FI-02410](https://feedback.autodesk.com/project/feedback/view.html?cap=5afe6c845cb3447ab36ccbd7f0688f84&f=%7B8FBADB72-C1B4-44AD-B55E-888E3FDC17E4%7D&uf=%7B09D13F16-05C2-4E13-B720-A2EA3030078F%7D&a=v&t=1) ---
### Author: ![Jeroenvb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@Jeroenvb](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jeroenvb) #### Post date: [January 11, 2022, 11:11am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/cryptomatte-spaghetti/4816/4 "2022-01-11T11:11:01Z")
I’m suprised cryptomatte works at all @ you guys. It used to work for us and then it broke with some 2022 version and now it’s producing a partly working output compared to Nuke. Ofcourse a multichannel pipeline would be the dream, but I’m not sure we are ever going to get there :). ---
### Author: ![hildebrandtbernd](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/hildebrandtbernd/32/3038_2.png) [@hildebrandtbernd](https://forum.logik.tv/u/hildebrandtbernd) #### Post date: [January 11, 2022, 1:59pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/cryptomatte-spaghetti/4816/5 "2022-01-11T13:59:29Z")
When you keep a line with all cryptolayers underneath, you can put the cryptonode in the middle to connect and use it pretty fast. Even in huge batches no more spaghetti. ![Cryptomatte](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/3/33fbaae7d4a28c58c1262b40fbd68ba98dafa0e9.jpeg) ---
### Author: ![greg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/greg/32/1185_2.png) [@greg](https://forum.logik.tv/u/greg) #### Post date: [January 11, 2022, 2:44pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/cryptomatte-spaghetti/4816/6 "2022-01-11T14:44:14Z")
ha, that 32 bit clip is tech AOVs but I appreciate you looking out for me. I guess it’s not so bad keeping them at the bottom. I do have a bad habit of accidentally cutting my connections so this will be a nightmare trying to figure that out when I do that. ---
### Author: ![johnt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/johnt/32/14040_2.png) [@johnt](https://forum.logik.tv/u/johnt) #### Post date: [January 12, 2022, 9:02pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/cryptomatte-spaghetti/4816/7 "2022-01-12T21:02:41Z")
Im sure you already know but you can have more than one matte output with the crypto matte like in @hildebrandtbernd ’s jpeg above. . Select the output number in the right hand column instead of all. Saves a little bit of batch space cutting down the number nodes. ---
### Author: ![FefoFX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8797f3/32.png) [@FefoFX](https://forum.logik.tv/u/FefoFX) #### Post date: [January 20, 2022, 11:06pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/cryptomatte-spaghetti/4816/8 "2022-01-20T23:06:50Z")
It should be improved, it’s not pleasant to connect the node. ---
### Author: ![MikeV](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/mikev/32/399_2.png) [@MikeV](https://forum.logik.tv/u/MikeV) #### Post date: [January 20, 2022, 11:43pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/cryptomatte-spaghetti/4816/9 "2022-01-20T23:43:53Z")
Fefo! ---
### Author: ![FefoFX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8797f3/32.png) [@FefoFX](https://forum.logik.tv/u/FefoFX) #### Post date: [January 20, 2022, 11:57pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/cryptomatte-spaghetti/4816/10 "2022-01-20T23:57:42Z")
Hey Mike!!