# Elbow Joints! **URL:** \ **Category:** Flame Questions\ **Tags:** batch\ **Created:** [March 9, 2023, 9:33am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889 "2023-03-09T09:33:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jonhollis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jonhollis/32/11832_2.png) [@Jonhollis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jonhollis)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 9:33am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889/1 "2023-03-09T09:33:29Z")
Is there any way to drag an elbow joint from a node, Rather than having to have a connection to another node in place already?? ---
**Author:** ![Sinan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/sinan/32/155_2.png) [@Sinan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Sinan)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 9:35am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889/2 "2023-03-09T09:35:03Z")
You can press/hold A and click on the output tab of a node. It will create an elbow there… ---
**Author:** ![Jonhollis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jonhollis/32/11832_2.png) [@Jonhollis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jonhollis)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 1:07pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889/3 "2023-03-09T13:07:48Z")
lovely - thanks for your help ---
**Author:** ![Jonhollis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jonhollis/32/11832_2.png) [@Jonhollis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jonhollis)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 2:05pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889/4 "2023-03-09T14:05:32Z")
that doesn’t quite do what I want - it just adds a joint in the path, I want to drag one away from the node that’s not in the path but makes its own new path ---
**Author:** ![Sinan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/sinan/32/155_2.png) [@Sinan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Sinan)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889/5 "2023-03-09T16:14:21Z")
Feature request then 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![paul\_round](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/paul_round/32/389_2.png) [@paul\_round](https://forum.logik.tv/u/paul_round)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 4:22pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889/6 "2023-03-09T16:22:24Z")
Add a node, add an elbow, delete node. ---
**Author:** ![Jonhollis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jonhollis/32/11832_2.png) [@Jonhollis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jonhollis)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 5:07pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889/7 "2023-03-09T17:07:09Z")
Thats one too many operations! ---
**Author:** ![paul\_round](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/paul_round/32/389_2.png) [@paul\_round](https://forum.logik.tv/u/paul_round)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 5:17pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889/8 "2023-03-09T17:17:04Z")
Jon, it will take you all of 2 seconds! ---
**Author:** ![GPM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/gpm/32/4224_2.png) [@GPM](https://forum.logik.tv/u/GPM)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 5:19pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889/9 "2023-03-09T17:19:37Z")
Two billable seconds! Cha-ching ---
**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 5:29pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889/10 "2023-03-09T17:29:38Z")
You can add in the path, Shift-Ctl D will duplicate the elbow in the state you want, then shift D to delete the node in the path. More keystrokes than I would like, but it works. These are smoke keys, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![fredwarren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/fredwarren/32/158_2.png) [@fredwarren](https://forum.logik.tv/u/fredwarren)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 5:37pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889/11 "2023-03-09T17:37:26Z")
@Jonhollis Please submit a General Improvement request over at flamefeedback.autodesk.com. We may be able to do something simple about it. ---
**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 11:28pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889/12 "2023-03-09T23:28:22Z")
@Jonhollis If you add it to the official wish list, I will upvote it. I’ve wanted this as a simple one-click option since elbows became multi-functional. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisHoward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b487fb/32.png) [@ChrisHoward](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ChrisHoward)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 11:49pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889/13 "2023-03-09T23:49:12Z")
If you’re in add mode you can Alt-drag from the node and it will create an elbow. But it’s always in the same place and not under your cursor. You have to grab it and move it. Almost what you want. ---
**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889/14 "2023-03-10T00:00:58Z")
I’ll check this out in the morning . . . ---
**Author:** ![ALan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a87d85/32.png) [@ALan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ALan)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 12:23am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889/15 "2023-03-10T00:23:43Z")
Well then, how about elbows for Mimic links? That has been in General Improvement for years. > [@fredwarren](#): > > Please submit a General Improvement request over at flamefeedback.autodesk.com. We may be able to do something simple about it. ---
**Author:** ![fredwarren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/fredwarren/32/158_2.png) [@fredwarren](https://forum.logik.tv/u/fredwarren)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889/16 "2023-03-10T00:26:44Z")
I am aware of that request. It wouldn’t be as simple as what Jon is asking for though. That being said there is no guarantee that we will do either one. ---
**Author:** ![GPM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/gpm/32/4224_2.png) [@GPM](https://forum.logik.tv/u/GPM)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 12:40am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889/17 "2023-03-10T00:40:55Z")
Slightly OT, but one undocumented feature is that you can make art with elbows. One night losing my mind on a project I created a fairly intricate Spirograph-like continuous line of elbow segments that vaguely resembled Harry Truman. ---
**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 1:13am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889/18 "2023-03-10T01:13:05Z")
sssssspppppp . . . . . 'ere. ---
**Author:** ![leovfx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/leovfx/32/12472_2.png) [@leovfx](https://forum.logik.tv/u/leovfx)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 5:21pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889/19 "2023-03-10T17:21:33Z")
On the subject of elbow joints, have you ever noticed that if your elbow joint is in a pipe coming out of a node with multiple other outputs, you can F4 through the various other outputs (even though they’re not the ones connected to the elbow). This being the case, any chance of a node that can split out (or shuffle out) these other outputs at the end of the pipe? ---
**Author:** ![fredwarren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/fredwarren/32/158_2.png) [@fredwarren](https://forum.logik.tv/u/fredwarren)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 5:37pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889/20 "2023-03-10T17:37:37Z")
> [@leovfx](#): > > On the subject of elbow joints, have you ever noticed that if your elbow joint is in a pipe coming out of a node with multiple other outputs, you can F4 through the various other outputs (even though they’re not the ones connected to the elbow). What version are you using? This is a behaviour we have fixed a while ago (in 2022.2 I think) [Next page](https://forum.logik.tv/t/elbow-joints/7889.md?page=2)