# Ethernet Switcher **URL:** \ **Category:** Hardware Questions\ **Tags:** networking, switcher\ **Created:** [September 26, 2021, 6:55pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ethernet-switcher/3894 "2021-09-26T18:55:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PlaceYourBetts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/placeyourbetts/32/6852_2.png) [@PlaceYourBetts](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PlaceYourBetts)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 6:55pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ethernet-switcher/3894/1 "2021-09-26T18:55:09Z")
So I am rapidly running out of ethernet ports and I was talking with someone about repurposing one of my old routers as a splitter. They said “I’ve got a splitter you can have”. Nice! I was expecting a small router sized box. I was little intimidated by what he gave me: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/e/edf295da10f74aa823be85a097b52339c85c5fcc.jpeg) Its a HP ProCurve J9019. I know I said that I wished I understood a little more about networking. I guess I have just found my project. Does anyone have any experience with one of these? ---
**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ethernet-switcher/3894/2 "2021-09-26T19:03:07Z")
Thought 1. Have you plugged it in yet? Thought 2. I’d google the model number. Managed? Unmanaged? If its managed, then there will be an IP address you need to log into to configure it. If its unmanaged, then all ya do is plug junk into it and voila. Thought 3. Free networking appliances are the marijuana of home networking. ---
**Author:** ![PlaceYourBetts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/placeyourbetts/32/6852_2.png) [@PlaceYourBetts](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PlaceYourBetts)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ethernet-switcher/3894/3 "2021-09-26T19:03:57Z")
Thought 3. - Seems like a good idea at the time but they make you sluggish? ---
**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 7:04pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ethernet-switcher/3894/4 "2021-09-26T19:04:13Z")
Gateway drug. ---
**Author:** ![ALan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a87d85/32.png) [@ALan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ALan)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ethernet-switcher/3894/5 "2021-09-26T19:09:19Z")
I’m converting our whole studio over to Ubiquiti gear. It is incredibly easy to manage and reasonably priced. I’ve tried using old enterprise gear before, and it non-optimal. Also, old enterprise gear is usually very loud. ---
**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ethernet-switcher/3894/6 "2021-09-26T19:13:43Z")
I love my Ubiquiti gear. ---
**Author:** ![PlaceYourBetts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/placeyourbetts/32/6852_2.png) [@PlaceYourBetts](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PlaceYourBetts)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ethernet-switcher/3894/7 "2021-09-26T19:17:09Z")
I’ll give it a crack but I don’t want to have to spend any money on it. I saw a console port and felt a little nervous. Thought 1. Funnily enough I am also running low on power ports. At least I know what to do with one of these: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/f/f653593a6144ed1fb24a60e84f8f5464b9c79191.jpeg) Thought 2. Yeah it has an IP address ---
**Author:** ![panisset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/aeb1de/32.png) [@panisset](https://forum.logik.tv/u/panisset)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 9:59pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ethernet-switcher/3894/8 "2021-09-26T21:59:08Z")
Those J9019s are $20 on eBay, so if you end up e-wasting it, you don’t have to feel too bad about it… The main thing to watch out for is that if it was previously deployed in an enterprise network, it may be configured with VLANs, 802.1x access control… which would make it tricky to use as a “dumb switch” where every port can talk to every port. Typically on these Procurve switches, if you use paperclips to hold down the “Reset” and “Clear” recessed buttons at the same time, this will reset the switch to factory defaults, after which it should just default to working as a “dumb switch” where every port can talk to every other port, which is likely what you want for a home network. Beware of the siren song of “free” rack mount gear, next thing you know you’ll be shopping for short racks, rack mounted PDUs, rack mount shelves to stack up existing gear, maybe a rackmount UPS… ---
**Author:** ![PlaceYourBetts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/placeyourbetts/32/6852_2.png) [@PlaceYourBetts](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PlaceYourBetts)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ethernet-switcher/3894/9 "2021-09-26T22:03:27Z")
and here begins the slippery (gateway drug @randy ) slope of having a small garage operation 😄 ---
**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 11:22pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ethernet-switcher/3894/10 "2021-09-26T23:22:06Z")
Come on in! The water is warm! (umm…yeah…cuz…ya know…piss.) ---
**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ethernet-switcher/3894/11 "2021-09-26T23:23:29Z")
> [@panisset](#): > > if you use paperclips to hold down the “Reset” and “Clear” recessed buttons at the same time, this will reset the switch to factory defaults IT warfare requires only a paperclip. ---
**Author:** ![johnag](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/johnag/32/573_2.png) [@johnag](https://forum.logik.tv/u/johnag)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ethernet-switcher/3894/12 "2021-09-27T23:49:06Z")
I have a procurve 2910 and I cant login via a web browser anymore as it requires flash. Lucky for me it’s just a dumb switch. @ALan I’ve been looking at the Ubiquity switches too. Can you recommend a small 10gig switch to cater for about 3-5 appliances ---
**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ethernet-switcher/3894/13 "2021-09-27T23:55:39Z")
I have this one. It works great for a couple of NAS and a couple of Flames and various other boxes. My only complaint is that it doesnt have the cool LCD like my Dreammachine Pro and X16POE switch has. But I’m vain af like that. > **[Switch XG 16](https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-switching/products/unifi-switch-16-xg)** > > Layer 2 aggregation switch with (12) 10G SFP+ ports and (4) 10GbE RJ45 ports. > The Switch XG 16 (US XG 16) is a fully managed, Layer 2 switch with (12) 10G SFP+ ports and (4) 10GbE RJ45 ports. Its 320 Gbps switching capacity and 160 Gbps total,... If this is overkill, then: > **[Switch XG 6 PoE](https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-switching/products/us-xg-6poe)** > > Layer 3, PoE switch with (4) 10GbE, 802.3bt PoE++ RJ45 ports and (2) 10G SFP+ ports. > The Switch XG 6 PoE (US XG 6 PoE) is a fully managed switch , mult-gigabit, Layer 3 switch with (4) 10GbE, 802.3bt PoE++ RJ45 ports, (2) 10G SFP+ ports. The... Yeah there are cheaper dumb switches but the Unifi ecosystem is pretty darn good for people like us. I do wish the Dreammachine Pro had a few other features like better multi wan options and wan failover, but, I fear the next step up is fully Cisco or some kinda Pfsense firewall/router + Cisco switches. ---
**Author:** ![panisset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/aeb1de/32.png) [@panisset](https://forum.logik.tv/u/panisset)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 12:12am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ethernet-switcher/3894/14 "2021-09-28T00:12:14Z")
If you don’t need any management, the Neatgear XS508M is basic 8 port 10GBase-T, B&H has it for $600 If your gear has SFP+ ports, hard to beat the Mikrotik CRS305-1G-4S+IN, 4 x SFP+ 10G ports + 1 x GigE for $136 on Amazon. And if your have a mix of SFP+ and 10GBaseT gear, the SFP+ to RJ45 adapters can be found for around $56: > **[MikroTik](https://mikrotik.com/product/s_rj10)** > > MikroTik is a Latvian company which was founded in 1996 to develop routers and wireless ISP systems. MikroTik now provides hardware and software for Internet connectivity in most of the countries around the world. although since this is a small fanless switch, adding 4 of these adapters to a switch makes it run quite hot. ---
**Author:** ![milanesa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b77776/32.png) [@milanesa](https://forum.logik.tv/u/milanesa)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 12:23am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ethernet-switcher/3894/15 "2021-09-28T00:23:01Z")
Using the CRS305-1G-4S+IN. Awesome little router/switch. Using three of the four SFP, it does run really hot. ---
**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 12:27am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ethernet-switcher/3894/16 "2021-09-28T00:27:38Z")
SFPs always run smokin’ hot. And at $55 a pop…ouch! ---
**Author:** ![panisset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/aeb1de/32.png) [@panisset](https://forum.logik.tv/u/panisset)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 12:37am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ethernet-switcher/3894/17 "2021-09-28T00:37:51Z")
Have you ever looked at the price of branded Arista, Cisco or Juniper SFP+ modules?.. But at $130 for the switch plus 2 or 3 of these modules, I think it’s still the cheapest option for a small 10G switch right now. ---
**Author:** ![PlaceYourBetts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/placeyourbetts/32/6852_2.png) [@PlaceYourBetts](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PlaceYourBetts)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 1:45am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ethernet-switcher/3894/18 "2021-09-28T01:45:13Z")
Not tricky just mildly disappointing. @randy Turns out it has: 24 100Base-TX ports bit only two 1000Base-TX I was better off with what I had. Thanks for the help. ---
**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 1:52am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ethernet-switcher/3894/19 "2021-09-28T01:52:29Z")
The saga continues.