# Flame Family Feedback Friday!

**URL:** <https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633>\
**Category:** Logik Announcements\
**Created:** [December 10, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633 "2021-12-10T16:37:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633/1 "2021-12-10T16:37:39Z")

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Got a Flame Family Feedback request you’re dying to get implemented? Post about it here on Fridays and we’ll all vote!

Here’s one that’s near and dear to many of our hearts and we’re talking about it right now in the Discord server…

FI-01618: Batch: Export movies from the Write File node.

[https://feedback.autodesk.com/project/feedback/view.html?cap=5afe6c845cb3447ab36ccbd7f0688f84&uf=8fb9cd6df7704a109db83c4952109489&slsid=3b447c0c1b454613bdcef2d20acd4368](https://feedback.autodesk.com/project/feedback/view.html?cap=5afe6c845cb3447ab36ccbd7f0688f84&uf=8fb9cd6df7704a109db83c4952109489&slsid=3b447c0c1b454613bdcef2d20acd4368)

VOTED!

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**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633/2 "2021-12-10T17:45:43Z")

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Nice, we already picked up 3 votes today. Keep 'em coming!

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**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633/3 "2021-12-10T20:27:53Z")

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Today I am collecting GFX to close out the job and I need to keep going into batch to create multichannel clips, so I am submitting this one: FI-02593

[https://feedback.autodesk.com/project/feedback/view.html?cap=5afe6c845cb3447ab36ccbd7f0688f84&f={8FBADB72-C1B4-44AD-B55E-888E3FDC17E4}&uf={666B157B-07E6-4A31-A54A-4363ED139A49}&a=v&t=0](https://feedback.autodesk.com/project/feedback/view.html?cap=5afe6c845cb3447ab36ccbd7f0688f84&f=%7B8FBADB72-C1B4-44AD-B55E-888E3FDC17E4%7D&uf=%7B666B157B-07E6-4A31-A54A-4363ED139A49%7D&a=v&t=0)

And then I need to export them from the desktop because I can’t use a write file to make a quicktime with embedded alpha. So I upvoted that one.

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**Author:** ![andy\_dill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/andy_dill/32/15475_2.png) [@andy\_dill](https://forum.logik.tv/u/andy_dill)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 2:04am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633/4 "2021-12-11T02:04:29Z")

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Here’s my white whale:

[An in-batch live, looping player that will update every time you change any parameter.](https://feedback.autodesk.com/project/feedback/view.html?cap=5afe6c845cb3447ab36ccbd7f0688f84&uf=920df357e12f499c91a6cdfb1db92251&slsid=344623ace6dd4cca875a494adcf12e95)

Idea for roto, tracking, and paint tasks where temporal consistency is hard to notice without watching the clip play in real time.

You’d be able to kick off a context into the “live loop player” and Flame would cache up the media and loop it live. Every paint stroke or vertex adjustment made would re-render and go back into the live loop, allowing you to see how well your work is going without rendering and noting down where the hits and errors seem to be.

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**Author:** ![johnt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/johnt/32/14040_2.png) [@johnt](https://forum.logik.tv/u/johnt)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 7:46am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633/5 "2021-12-11T07:46:12Z")

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This is a long standing gripe of mine and I get very confused when I’m working on more than one edit at a time. It was so elegant in smoke pre-anniversary. I’m hoping @space_monkey and @randy will still agree.

To have the order of clips in sequence reels ganged together so when you look at them on the reels on desktop, reel on desktop media hub, and the open sequence timeline tabs they’re in the same order.

The below improvement isn’t mine but I think it covers it.

[Timeline: Ability to reorder sequence tabs.](https://feedback.autodesk.com/project/feedback/view.html?cap=5afe6c845cb3447ab36ccbd7f0688f84&tmppre=1&uf=7297dc4b2e6641d6afb88975db2ae072)

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**Author:** ![johnt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/johnt/32/14040_2.png) [@johnt](https://forum.logik.tv/u/johnt)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 10:00am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633/6 "2021-12-11T10:00:29Z")

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[MediaHub: Auto fill propositions while typing a path](https://feedback.autodesk.com/project/feedback/view.html?cap=5afe6c845cb3447ab36ccbd7f0688f84&uf=9abcdb6704fe4672af75d89a474b5170&slsid=ca66fc859b2946a9b55decd551c7c3d1)

Type addresses and have them auto complete

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**Author:** ![cnoellert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/cnoellert/32/559_2.png) [@cnoellert](https://forum.logik.tv/u/cnoellert)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633/7 "2021-12-11T17:08:15Z")

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Still maintain pre-anniversary Smoke premium was as good as it gets workflow-wise for editorial.

…and upvoted.

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**Author:** ![space\_monkey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/space_monkey/32/49_2.png) [@space\_monkey](https://forum.logik.tv/u/space_monkey)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633/8 "2021-12-11T18:06:28Z")

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I think this is issue that really needs to be taken at a wider view throughout the software, while we can look at individual aspects like what @johnt points out I hope and wish that autodesk would just release a version where they tighten up the software and really close the circles in the various application directions. I know that’s a little confusing but sometimes the software behaves in a one direction manner where I think it should be bi directional or sometimes its just downright confusing. For example gmask behaves different in pretty much every aspect of the software, TL FX can be added to on the desktop but not in batch, orders of sequences should be ganged but behave universal thought the software, paint tools should be universal. I also think batches and batchfx should behave and be able to be linked together helping unify the two workflows. I can go on and on and I hope that the software can be looked at as a circle and can flow in either direction no matter what the artist chooses but that’s just my two cents and I realize this is a huge task for a limited dev team with probably lots on their plates.

Edit: I started to think what I would categorize the broader topic and came up with, a circular unification of the software across the modules.

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**Author:** ![johnt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/johnt/32/14040_2.png) [@johnt](https://forum.logik.tv/u/johnt)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633/9 "2021-12-11T21:41:28Z")

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My next one was going to be copy paste axes between all modules which includes planar tracker inside gmask and distort. And desktop warper in batch. Etc. etc. like what you said.

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**Author:** ![space\_monkey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/space_monkey/32/49_2.png) [@space\_monkey](https://forum.logik.tv/u/space_monkey)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 9:58pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633/10 "2021-12-11T21:58:09Z")

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maybe for the 30 year anniversary they can call it the spring cleaning update, 30 years and just more mature and optimization because the twenties was a mess.

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**Author:** ![digitalbanshee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/digitalbanshee/32/1160_2.png) [@digitalbanshee](https://forum.logik.tv/u/digitalbanshee)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633/11 "2021-12-14T18:14:30Z")

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I was just gonna upvote exporting mp4 but it looks like this is addressed in 2022? Anybody try it?

From Stephane 3 weeks ago…

> In Flame Family 2022 release, we have added ways to connect our Python API to ffmpeg so you could create your own MP4 exports. No need to transcode exported content anymore. We provided two examples in the /opt/Autodesk/flame\_2022/python\_examples/export\_selection.py script so you could expand on these to create the various export presets you need for your deliverables. This works on both Linux and macOS for your convenience.
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> Look at this link for more details: [Python Improvements](https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/flame-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2022/ENU/Flame-WhatsNew/files/GUID-112C2B67-4D0E-473B-9C14-A7B7BA5EDE80-htm.html)  
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**Author:** ![john-geehreng](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/john-geehreng/32/7195_2.png) [@john-geehreng](https://forum.logik.tv/u/john-geehreng)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633/12 "2021-12-14T18:24:32Z")

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Yeah, I messed with this for a long time and even built a GUI for it, but eventually I threw in the towel because I couldn’t get the colors to match.

> [@How does one make an MP4?](https://forum.logik.tv/t/how-does-one-make-an-mp4/3031/26):
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> While we’re on the subject, does anyone feel like messing with this? You’ll need 2022 and ffmpeg installed. It’s a mix of Autodesk’s encode selection script, Mike V’s GUI, and my ability to cut and paste. It’s customized for our facility, but you can change a few paths if you search for /Volumes/vfx. I also commented out the section where it saves the selection to a shared library / dated / timestamped folder. Would it be better to specify a bitrate instead of using CBR? [mp4\_gui.py](https://forum.logik.tv/uploads/short-url/3WLEiB1ndLpQ83DU7HoJSy8bI7L.py) (50.5 KB)

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**Author:** ![space\_monkey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/space_monkey/32/49_2.png) [@space\_monkey](https://forum.logik.tv/u/space_monkey)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2021, 9:39pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633/14 "2021-12-19T21:39:12Z")

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I totally understand that push, but I still think its just a lame excuse for laziness, I could market a new revitalized flame with optimized functionality so much better than a new (insert node here) for a single function.

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**Author:** ![Josh\_Laurence](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/josh_laurence/32/1243_2.png) [@Josh\_Laurence](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Josh_Laurence)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633/15 "2021-12-20T16:25:47Z")

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Hi @andy_dill!

This! I submitted this almost ten years ago as a “Cache Node” - you can drop it anywhere in the schematic and it will process everything upstream to that point. It will have both in and out so that it functions as a player and a pre-render. I have so wanted something like this for as long as I can remember.

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**Author:** ![ALan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a87d85/32.png) [@ALan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ALan)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 5:04pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633/16 "2021-12-20T17:04:46Z")

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click the little circle on a Mux node, done.

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**Author:** ![Josh\_Laurence](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/josh_laurence/32/1243_2.png) [@Josh\_Laurence](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Josh_Laurence)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633/17 "2021-12-20T17:08:43Z")

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Hi @ALan,

You’re probably the perfect person to ask…

Years ago, you could pull the history clips back into a desktop - is there something analogous with the Cache in a Mux node?

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![ALan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a87d85/32.png) [@ALan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ALan)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633/18 "2021-12-20T17:19:31Z")

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I never did that. I always like live trees.

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**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633/19 "2021-12-20T17:34:55Z")

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You can add a render node after the mux and select schematic reel as the destination. It will cache the mux as it renders, depending on the settings, and drop the hard rendered clip under the render node.

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**Author:** ![Sinan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/sinan/32/155_2.png) [@Sinan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Sinan)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 9:29pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633/20 "2021-12-20T21:29:54Z")

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How about right-clicking to create BFX, then rendering that?

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**Author:** ![Josh\_Laurence](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/josh_laurence/32/1243_2.png) [@Josh\_Laurence](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Josh_Laurence)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 3:11pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-family-feedback-friday/4633/21 "2021-12-21T15:11:25Z")

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That’s what I do now, and I’m grateful for this feature. It’s faster than deliberately rendering and re-joining as we used to in the past, but I would love something that feels like the AE caching scheme or the FCPX caching scheme. I’m usually pleasantly surprised at how interactive playback is on those apps.

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