# Flame Keyboard

**URL:** <https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573>\
**Category:** Hardware Questions\
**Tags:** keyboard, keyboards\
**Created:** [April 17, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573 "2022-04-17T19:39:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![cnoellert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/cnoellert/32/559_2.png) [@cnoellert](https://forum.logik.tv/u/cnoellert)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 12:51am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573/24 "2022-04-21T00:51:01Z")

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I’d argue that the best parts of Flame got integrated into Smoke… not the other way around…

The proof is that the best version of Flame pre-anniversary was actually the Smoke Premium that came with a Flame Premium license. The Flame workflow at that point was a joke comparatively speaking and the timeline/batch foundational combo of Smoke Premium is really the way we all work today.

Kill the reels view and we’ll take a step forward imho.

Of course the Flame name was the stronger IP… but it is what it is. My 2 cents…

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**Author:** ![fredwarren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/fredwarren/32/158_2.png) [@fredwarren](https://forum.logik.tv/u/fredwarren)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 3:00am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573/25 "2022-04-21T03:00:56Z")

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> [@cnoellert](#):
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> I’d argue that the best parts of Flame got integrated into Smoke… not the other way around…

This is what happened “under the hood”

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**Author:** ![cnoellert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/cnoellert/32/559_2.png) [@cnoellert](https://forum.logik.tv/u/cnoellert)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 12:44am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573/27 "2022-04-22T00:44:35Z")

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So there’s a universe where the desktop reels view could just be turned off? I’ll file a feature request.

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**Author:** ![cnoellert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/cnoellert/32/559_2.png) [@cnoellert](https://forum.logik.tv/u/cnoellert)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 2:07pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573/29 "2022-04-22T14:07:58Z")

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Once you’ve moved on, it’s fairly obvious how unnecessary they are. If there were an option to turn them off and get back to the sleekness of Smoke I’d be all down.

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**Author:** ![filmtools](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/filmtools/32/5324_2.png) [@filmtools](https://forum.logik.tv/u/filmtools)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 8:16am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573/30 "2022-11-25T08:16:03Z")

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> **[SMOKE - Linux/PC Nero Slim Line Keyboard](https://logickeyboard.com/shop/smoke-linux-pc-3154p.html)**
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> Increase your workflow with a dedicated Smoke shortcut Nero keyboard from Logickeyboard™

would this work now in Flame?

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**Author:** ![Robg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a698b9/32.png) [@Robg](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Robg)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 2:43pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573/31 "2022-11-25T14:43:09Z")

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I still use one

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**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573/32 "2022-11-25T15:13:13Z")

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What’s the difference between the UK and American English versions? Is there a bollux key?

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**Author:** ![filmtools](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/filmtools/32/5324_2.png) [@filmtools](https://forum.logik.tv/u/filmtools)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573/33 "2022-11-25T17:04:37Z")

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That is great - so all shortcuts that you used on smoke are same in flame with that keyboard?

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**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573/34 "2022-11-25T17:24:14Z")

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They are the same if you set your prefs to smoke keys. From what I can see, the labels appear to be accurate.

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**Author:** ![Robg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a698b9/32.png) [@Robg](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Robg)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 5:29pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573/35 "2022-11-25T17:29:00Z")

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Exactly as Tim said, if you used the smoke classic preferences then you’ll be happy.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/a/a157e3e86bda42fd7e062e74f71020cf907e3295.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 5:35pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573/36 "2022-11-25T17:35:18Z")

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F10,11 and 12 are not quite accurate any more, at least not with smoke keys on flame. And looking at it after being on an unlabeled keyboard for so long I am reminded of how many I never use. Personally, I prefer a backlit keyboard now, but I have to admit, that keyboard was very comfortable to use.

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**Author:** ![MLandon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@MLandon](https://forum.logik.tv/u/MLandon)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 3:57am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573/38 "2022-11-26T03:57:05Z")

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> [@filmtools](#):
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> would this work now in Flame?

Yep, I use one every day! It’s great if you want to be one of the “cool kids” who use Smoke hotkeys!! 🙂

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**Author:** ![johnag](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/johnag/32/573_2.png) [@johnag](https://forum.logik.tv/u/johnag)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 8:54am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573/39 "2023-08-21T08:54:47Z")

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I’m looking at buying this keyboard for Flame as I like the backlit mode.

Anyone using it?

> **[Smoke - Mac ASTRA 2 Backlit Keyboard](https://logickeyboard.com/shop/smoke-mac-astra-4601p.html)**
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> Shortcut keyboard for Autodesk Smoke - Edit like never before and save hours of editing with a color-coded shortcut keyboard from Logickeyboard

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**Author:** ![MLandon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@MLandon](https://forum.logik.tv/u/MLandon)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 4:47pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573/40 "2023-08-21T16:47:33Z")

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Hey John! I know a couple of people using it. It’s just like the other LogicKeyboards except you have to do some funky things to get the function keys working properly. Make sure to watch the install videos on the Logickeyboard site if you pick one up for your Mac.

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**Author:** ![aaronneitz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/aaronneitz/32/3874_2.png) [@aaronneitz](https://forum.logik.tv/u/aaronneitz)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 5:11pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573/41 "2023-08-21T17:11:44Z")

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I have one, but it sadly went crazy after 2 years (page down randomly triggers). And then I broke the key fiddling with it… whoops. A backlit keyboard is super nice to have.

One things I could never get to work was Shift 1:see Primary track output in BFX. I assumed it was just Flame being Flame, but it works on my plain Mac keyboard…

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**Author:** ![hildebrandtbernd](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/hildebrandtbernd/32/3038_2.png) [@hildebrandtbernd](https://forum.logik.tv/u/hildebrandtbernd)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573/42 "2023-08-21T18:04:18Z")

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Why not just buying a mechanical RGB keyboard instead of a 10bucks keyboard that got smoke buttons printed on it for 100+?  
Colorcodes for shortcuts and colored macros for started shortcuts, way more modern.

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**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573/43 "2023-08-21T18:07:08Z")

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Yeah, I’d much rather buy a nice quality keyboard than a scissor-style with cheap keycaps.

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**Author:** ![aaronneitz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/aaronneitz/32/3874_2.png) [@aaronneitz](https://forum.logik.tv/u/aaronneitz)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 8:15pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573/44 "2023-08-21T20:15:59Z")

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Well SOME of us Smokers still don’t know our hotkeys a decade later. And that’s OK.

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**Author:** ![julioleon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/julioleon/32/14482_2.png) [@julioleon](https://forum.logik.tv/u/julioleon)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 9:59pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573/45 "2023-08-21T21:59:22Z")

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> [@randy](#):
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> …Yeah, its because everybody knows that Smoke Hotkeys are far superior to Flame Hotkeys so why would anybody make an inferior keyboard for inferior hotkeys?

Apart from having the Smoke hotkeys, the keyboard feels much better than the white Apple one.

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**Author:** ![johnag](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/johnag/32/573_2.png) [@johnag](https://forum.logik.tv/u/johnag)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 10:22pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-keyboard/5573/46 "2023-08-21T22:22:52Z")

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I dont care about the labels. I want a backlit keyboard with function keys grouped in 4”s. Very hard to find nice looking feeling keyboards with simple backlight.

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