# Ftrack? Shotgrid? NIM? GTFO! Aquarium! **URL:** \ **Category:** Pipeline\ **Created:** [February 2, 2024, 5:08pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994 "2024-02-02T17:08:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AdamArcher](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/adamarcher/32/3529_2.png) [@AdamArcher](https://forum.logik.tv/u/AdamArcher)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994/21 "2024-09-13T22:13:50Z")
The thing about any pipeline tool is that you need to do some tinkering to suit your workflow. No, you wouldn’t use AYON if you are already using Shotgrid/FTrack/NIM/Kitsu managing your pipeline. There are certainly scenarios however where you would use FTrack or Kitsu for shot management but use AYON to manage your pipeline. As AYON is opensource, if you’ve got someone cluey or a TD, you could get AYON to have the same functionality as Flame at just the cost of your TD. Or you can even engage Ynput to write those integrations for you. The thing I love most about AYON is that it has a GUI tool to build custom pipelines for each project where someone like me who only has enough python skills to break stuff can design a whole pipeline using tokens. Very cool. The shot management tools in AYON are also improving. ---
**Author:** ![milanesa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b77776/32.png) [@milanesa](https://forum.logik.tv/u/milanesa)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 2:48pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994/22 "2024-09-14T14:48:07Z")
> [@philm](#): > > I think I read that Ayon support for flame stopped at flame 2023. I see newer versions coming in with defaults… but yes, new features I think stopped a while ago. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/e/eac91fa0da8c504f7e24e3db2411c8e7f31e59f9.png) And active recent development: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/f/f6572c3e8a2baa75fc6809a75b4451692780f54d.png) ---
**Author:** ![philm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/philm/32/9286_2.png) [@philm](https://forum.logik.tv/u/philm)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994/23 "2024-09-14T16:59:43Z")
@milanesa - nice Thanks for the update I’ll download the open source and dig in. ---
**Author:** ![milanesa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b77776/32.png) [@milanesa](https://forum.logik.tv/u/milanesa)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994/24 "2024-09-14T19:26:38Z")
If you go for it, I recommend the Docker way on a LXC. > **[Server deployment | AYON Docs](https://ayon.ynput.io/docs/admin_server_deployment/)** > > Requirements ---
**Author:** ![philm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/philm/32/9286_2.png) [@philm](https://forum.logik.tv/u/philm)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994/25 "2024-09-14T19:30:16Z")
@milanesa - i will do exactly that. My current hypervisor test machine is a mac pro 6.1 so docker is incompatible under proxmox. I’m about to rescue an unwanted HP server from a landfill and configure that. ---
**Author:** ![milanesa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b77776/32.png) [@milanesa](https://forum.logik.tv/u/milanesa)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 4:31pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994/26 "2024-10-10T16:31:37Z")
> **[AYON Flame Addon | AYON Docs](https://ayon.ynput.io/docs/category/flame/)** > > Welcome to Flame Integration Documentation! > **[Autodesk Flame | AYON Docs](https://ayon.ynput.io/docs/addon_flame_artist/)** > > AYON Flame Addon's documentations for artists. ---
**Author:** ![philm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/philm/32/9286_2.png) [@philm](https://forum.logik.tv/u/philm)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 5:15pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994/27 "2024-10-10T17:15:53Z")
Great news ---
**Author:** ![wiltonmts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/wiltonmts/32/376_2.png) [@wiltonmts](https://forum.logik.tv/u/wiltonmts)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994/28 "2024-10-29T15:36:56Z")
[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/5/5bfba3ca0eb36401e10d9749534f9b0590182ffa.jpeg "ftrack Studio x Autodesk Flame integration preview") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8kZWR0--Dc) ---
**Author:** ![ALan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a87d85/32.png) [@ALan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ALan)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 4:52pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994/29 "2024-10-29T16:52:35Z")
Not sure what we are supposed to learn from that video. It tracks exactly with what @cnoellert said , this is basically a tech demo. ---
**Author:** ![philm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/philm/32/9286_2.png) [@philm](https://forum.logik.tv/u/philm)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994/30 "2024-10-29T16:58:42Z")
@ALan - if you already have ftrack installed, and you only use flame for shots, then this is a good way to show that you can add one shot to ftrack, in a way that ties in with other ftrack users. that’s a good demo. (of adding one shot, maybe multtiple shots?, maybe multiple shots sequentially or simultaneously?) it’s not even where shotgun was a decade ago. ---
**Author:** ![ALan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a87d85/32.png) [@ALan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ALan)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994/31 "2024-10-29T17:06:10Z")
does it publish and track batch renders? can you do a sequence publish from scratch and create shots from flame? To me it seems you have to launch Flame from their webgui for a particular shot for it work. that doesn’t fly. ---
**Author:** ![finnjaeger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@finnjaeger](https://forum.logik.tv/u/finnjaeger)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994/32 "2024-10-29T20:18:23Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/4/4ec658a5627ea7226e12a40755d7f0fcae9da5b1.jpeg) Who needs any of this when you can publish to clickup ? lol. ---
**Author:** ![Ton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ton/32/5542_2.png) [@Ton](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Ton)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 7:42am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994/33 "2024-10-30T07:42:50Z")
Never heard of clickup… but of course it’s trusted by a gazzilion big name companies… … like… every… other… tool … out … there… Amazing. Must be a mess at IBM, them using all these platforms at once. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![finnjaeger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@finnjaeger](https://forum.logik.tv/u/finnjaeger)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 7:56am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994/34 "2024-10-30T07:56:02Z")
hahah Yea its more like airtable or just a super flexible project management tool that we sorta like to use because it combines wiki and office planning and shot tracking in one, its all a bit hacky but we are building shot publishing and tools on top of it. Its not perfect, nothing is, bu clickup is ok. ---
**Author:** ![milanesa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b77776/32.png) [@milanesa](https://forum.logik.tv/u/milanesa)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994/36 "2024-11-19T18:43:52Z")
Aquarium goes full Open Source: > **[Fatfish Lab](https://fatfi.sh/aquarium/opensource)** > > Discover our new project & pipeline management platform dedicated to creative projects : animation, vfx, video games, real time, VR, AR, ... ---
**Author:** ![finnjaeger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@finnjaeger](https://forum.logik.tv/u/finnjaeger)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994/37 "2024-11-19T19:50:44Z")
@philm aquarium + Logik Projekt = \<3 ? ---
**Author:** ![philm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/philm/32/9286_2.png) [@philm](https://forum.logik.tv/u/philm)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994/38 "2024-11-19T19:54:05Z")
@finnjaeger Doing automated cross-platform firewall rules at the moment… I’ll get to it… 🤣 ![Episode 17 GIF by The Simpsons](https://media2.giphy.com/media/xT5LMxyx0Hj5zHuPgQ/giphy.webp?cid=67804a9bxgdxdn0w1o14ngehit5myah008tg1bj4lzd76xi1&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.webp&ct=g) ---
**Author:** ![finnjaeger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@finnjaeger](https://forum.logik.tv/u/finnjaeger)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 2:17pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994/39 "2025-07-04T14:17:26Z")
we have been working hard with them to improve stuff and → its working I can only urge morge people to give it a go its the best one i have seen so far and it keeps getting better fast!! ---
**Author:** ![Ton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ton/32/5542_2.png) [@Ton](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Ton)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 3:35pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994/40 "2025-07-04T15:35:41Z")
The open source version? ---
**Author:** ![cicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@cicero](https://forum.logik.tv/u/cicero)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2026, 3:20pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994/41 "2026-10-07T15:20:53Z")
@finnjaeger Are you still using Aquarium and still enjoying it? Any idea how long till their open source version is released? [Previous page](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.logik.tv/t/ftrack-shotgrid-nim-gtfo-aquarium/9994.md?page=3)