# Help please - trasition up to cut **URL:** \ **Category:** Flame Questions\ **Tags:** timeline\ **Created:** [September 5, 2023, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/help-please-trasition-up-to-cut/9074 "2023-09-05T16:53:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![johnt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/johnt/32/14040_2.png) [@johnt](https://forum.logik.tv/u/johnt)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/help-please-trasition-up-to-cut/9074/1 "2023-09-05T16:53:31Z")
fading up to cut - from cut - whatever I do I cannot change the default behaviour - I’m sure it used to be possible to lock in back in the smoke days - for example, with an element, I would like to have the transition default to fade up to cut and not be inside the element - any ideas? ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/d/d109d07b13303b9f29a67d02d18637037f7e6155.png) ---
**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 5:10pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/help-please-trasition-up-to-cut/9074/2 "2023-09-05T17:10:44Z")
Preferences\>Timeline\>Transitions Blue pop-up cycles between Centered, up to cut and after cut. ---
**Author:** ![johnt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/johnt/32/14040_2.png) [@johnt](https://forum.logik.tv/u/johnt)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 5:36pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/help-please-trasition-up-to-cut/9074/3 "2023-09-05T17:36:34Z")
Yes. But it’s the default behaviour I want to change. No matter how I set it in user prefs, the default behaviour is the same which is from cut. ---
**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 5:53pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/help-please-trasition-up-to-cut/9074/4 "2023-09-05T17:53:48Z")
maybe it depends on which side of the transition is highlighted. EDIT: Hey, you’re right. I guess I never noticed because I like them inside my segments. ---
**Author:** ![julioleon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/julioleon/32/14482_2.png) [@julioleon](https://forum.logik.tv/u/julioleon)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 1:01am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/help-please-trasition-up-to-cut/9074/5 "2023-09-06T01:01:31Z")
You can grab the transition and grab it to whatever location on the clip you want. Maybe this will help. ---
**Author:** ![hildebrandtbernd](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/hildebrandtbernd/32/3038_2.png) [@hildebrandtbernd](https://forum.logik.tv/u/hildebrandtbernd)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 8:47am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/help-please-trasition-up-to-cut/9074/6 "2023-09-06T08:47:18Z")
What you can use is an timeline cut to ‘achieve’ this with 1 click more. Add a cut in the gap you want the transition to start and create the disolve. With “up to cut” and enough handles setup, the transition will be set from marker to segment. Only issue that way is, you will have a gap cut with the transition start that way and not an open longer one. ---
**Author:** ![johnt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/johnt/32/14040_2.png) [@johnt](https://forum.logik.tv/u/johnt)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 8:51am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/help-please-trasition-up-to-cut/9074/7 "2023-09-06T08:51:29Z")
These are all great workarounds. Thank you. I think it seems that the behaviour I am looking for is broken. I pretty certain it used to be there in smoke 6. Or 5.