# How do you Flame? **URL:** \ **Category:** Between Renders\ **Created:** [July 8, 2022, 9:09pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/how-do-you-flame/6240 "2022-07-08T21:09:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![PlaceYourBetts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/placeyourbetts/32/6852_2.png) [@PlaceYourBetts](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PlaceYourBetts)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/how-do-you-flame/6240/24 "2022-07-13T19:48:43Z")
🤔 Is it general or Flame specific you are wanting to start with? ---
**Author:** ![john-geehreng](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/john-geehreng/32/7195_2.png) [@john-geehreng](https://forum.logik.tv/u/john-geehreng)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/how-do-you-flame/6240/25 "2022-07-13T19:54:47Z")
I think general to start, but I’m open to suggestions. ---
**Author:** ![PlaceYourBetts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/placeyourbetts/32/6852_2.png) [@PlaceYourBetts](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PlaceYourBetts)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/how-do-you-flame/6240/26 "2022-07-13T19:55:04Z")
I compiled this document a few years ago. Mostly for myself to put all the things that I was finding into one place. [Colour Management v2.0.pdf](https://forum.logik.tv/uploads/short-url/zYdNnDtAjYJ0FNWmggmXYqJHhdX.pdf) (1.1 MB) I hope it helps. I found that the biggest hurdle I had to overcome was the concept of sceneLinear and display referred. I can highly recommend this page written by @toodee [https://www.toodee.de/?page\_id=1021](https://www.toodee.de/?page_id=1021) It is a much better document than my own 👍 ---
**Author:** ![BrittCiampa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ec9cab/32.png) [@BrittCiampa](https://forum.logik.tv/u/BrittCiampa)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/how-do-you-flame/6240/27 "2022-07-13T19:56:14Z")
Hey John! This is dense but so well explained from front to back, really a helpful thing this person has created [Intended Audience](https://nick-shaw.github.io/cinematiccolor/intended-audience.html#) This is another website that kind of digs straight into ACES and is again really well explained [2.1. Display Referred vs. Scene Referred – Brylka – TooDee – PanicPost](https://www.toodee.de/?page_id=1021#) And finally, this guys site is just really great overall, really cool and well done and interactive, all sorts of stuff there beyond color stuff [Color Spaces – Bartosz Ciechanowski](https://ciechanow.ski/color-spaces/) ---
**Author:** ![BrittCiampa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ec9cab/32.png) [@BrittCiampa](https://forum.logik.tv/u/BrittCiampa)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/how-do-you-flame/6240/28 "2022-07-13T19:57:04Z")
Beat me to the Toodee, Richard!!! haha I’m gonna check out that document you’e got up there as well now! ---
**Author:** ![john-geehreng](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/john-geehreng/32/7195_2.png) [@john-geehreng](https://forum.logik.tv/u/john-geehreng)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/how-do-you-flame/6240/29 "2022-07-13T19:57:46Z")
Awesome, thank you guys! ---
**Author:** ![PlaceYourBetts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/placeyourbetts/32/6852_2.png) [@PlaceYourBetts](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PlaceYourBetts)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 7:59pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/how-do-you-flame/6240/30 "2022-07-13T19:59:28Z")
I have one more advanced document, that came from VES. This is not intended to put you off. Just let the science wash over you like a cold shower. I skimmed it and ignored what I didn’t understand and enjoyed reading smart people talk about a topic that I found (still find) fascinating: [http://github.com/jeremyselan/cinematiccolor/raw/master/ves/Cinematic\_Color\_VES.pdf](http://github.com/jeremyselan/cinematiccolor/raw/master/ves/Cinematic_Color_VES.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![PlaceYourBetts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/placeyourbetts/32/6852_2.png) [@PlaceYourBetts](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PlaceYourBetts)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 8:00pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/how-do-you-flame/6240/31 "2022-07-13T20:00:59Z")
A couple here I haven’t read @BrittCiampa thanks. How good is [Bartosz Ciechanowski](https://ciechanow.ski/). Loved his one about camera lenses 👍 ---
**Author:** ![BrittCiampa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ec9cab/32.png) [@BrittCiampa](https://forum.logik.tv/u/BrittCiampa)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 8:13pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/how-do-you-flame/6240/32 "2022-07-13T20:13:00Z")
It’s so good. Such an awesome way of presenting information, just ingenious! ---
**Author:** ![PlaceYourBetts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/placeyourbetts/32/6852_2.png) [@PlaceYourBetts](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PlaceYourBetts)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 8:22pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/how-do-you-flame/6240/33 "2022-07-13T20:22:42Z")
How do I Flame? **I religiously tag everything**. I have become so obsessed that I even use the ‘Data’ option to give UV textures a ‘UV’ tag and alphas get the 'Matte tag. I have modified the default File Rules ([GLOB](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glob_(programming)#:~:text=In%20computer%20programming%2C%20glob%20(%2F,files%20with%20names%20ending%20in%20.))) that come with the ACES 1.1 preset so that most of this is automatic. I love the active colour management feature in Flame ---
**Author:** ![Jason\_Kalinoski](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jason_kalinoski/32/263_2.png) [@Jason\_Kalinoski](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jason_Kalinoski)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 8:23pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/how-do-you-flame/6240/34 "2022-07-13T20:23:44Z")
A lot of good info on the Chris Brejon site…I stumbled on it during my ACES quest. > **[CG Cinematography Archives - Chris Brejon](https://chrisbrejon.com/cg-cinematography/)** > > Lighting and CG Cinematography are the main topics of my website. Through a series of chapters, I will try to share my experience on PBR cartoon movies. ---
**Author:** ![onlycarlyouknow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/onlycarlyouknow/32/2535_2.png) [@onlycarlyouknow](https://forum.logik.tv/u/onlycarlyouknow)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 12:35am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/how-do-you-flame/6240/35 "2022-07-14T00:35:45Z")
I work 50/50 timeline and batch. I could do most of my jobs 100% on timeline and every now and then do by accident. In Batch most of my actual comping is done in Action but every now and then I do a few shots without action just to remind myself I can. Nearly every Batch setup starts out with me grabbing a Gmask Tracer node. I don’t tend to end up with aesthetically pleasing Batch setups and it bugs me. Favorite keyer for stuff that is actually supposed to be keyed is YUV, but for just picking stuff out of a scene it’s 3d Keyer or Master Keyer. I feel like Master Keyer is unfairly maligned in general. The HLS keyer just makes me mad because it doesn’t work as well or pleasantly as the one in Resolve. I think the only thing I have used from the Tools tab in the last 5 years or so is Convert Rate. My most controversial flame habit is that I basically live on the desktop and just drop backups of the conform versions into a Lib periodically. The majority of my jobs I am the only flame person on and I think that informs a lot of my workflow. ---
**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 12:42am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/how-do-you-flame/6240/36 "2022-07-14T00:42:34Z")
I don’t Flame. I Lame. [Previous page](https://forum.logik.tv/t/how-do-you-flame/6240.md?page=1)