# I wished I still could be a Flame advocate

**URL:** <https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403>\
**Category:** Logik Announcements\
**Created:** [July 9, 2021, 3:07am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403 "2021-07-09T03:07:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2021, 10:18pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403/21 "2021-07-09T22:18:06Z")

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The grass is always greener because it’s fertilized with bullshit.

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**Author:** ![andy\_dill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/andy_dill/32/15475_2.png) [@andy\_dill](https://forum.logik.tv/u/andy_dill)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2021, 10:54pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403/22 "2021-07-09T22:54:58Z")

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> [@BrittCiampa](#):
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> Dibs on optical printer

“And now we pause the competition for three days while Britt’s film goes to the lab. Let’s hope that mag was packed correctly folks. A fog up would be game over.”

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**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 1:28am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403/23 "2021-07-10T01:28:18Z")

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And remember: get your film to the lab on the first of the month when the bath is still fresh.

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**Author:** ![mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/58f4c7/32.png) [@mike](https://forum.logik.tv/u/mike)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 1:40am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403/24 "2021-07-10T01:40:56Z")

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Spot on Randy and loving your passion! Tell it like it is

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**Author:** ![david-parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6de8d8/32.png) [@david-parker](https://forum.logik.tv/u/david-parker)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403/25 "2021-07-10T01:51:35Z")

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Anyone else accidentally hit F9 on accident than have a minor panic attack seeing your past looking for a vtr that doesn’t exist?

I wish I could be a Flame advocate but I can’t work with a tool that scares me as much as helps me.

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**Author:** ![Brewster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/brewster/32/1109_2.png) [@Brewster](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Brewster)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 8:40am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403/26 "2021-07-10T08:40:23Z")

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Dont worry Parker I’m sure we can find you a DVW500 and an RS422 cable somewhere…

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**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 12:10pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403/27 "2021-07-10T12:10:48Z")

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That’d be cheaper than medication wouldn’t it Brewsta? 🙂

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**Author:** ![AdamArcher](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/adamarcher/32/3529_2.png) [@AdamArcher](https://forum.logik.tv/u/AdamArcher)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 1:26pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403/28 "2021-07-10T13:26:15Z")

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It is a real shame that someone can feel pissed enough to drop a post like that and actually have no explanation or justification for what has been said. Would have preferred a bit more substance to the actual issues rather than the whole (paraphrasing here) ‘I’ve been using flame longer than anyone so if I say it now sux then my opinion must be right’. Ok cool, he’s obviously not happy with Flame but honestly what was he actually trying to achieve with his post? Plus how proactive has he been about trying to fix the issues he has with Flame. I’m not aware of any other software package having the level of access to the Product Manager and Dev team the way we do with Flame. Nor do I see an active product improvement such as Flame Family Feedback from other packages, where they actually reference the improvement suggestions that have been implemented for each release.

If you’re reading this reply, could you please expand on your reasoning? You can’t win a debate by talking yourself up then merely delivering your opinion without any facts or justification to back that opinion up. Unless you’re Donald Trump!

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**Author:** ![miles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@miles](https://forum.logik.tv/u/miles)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403/29 "2021-07-10T16:13:59Z")

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I like being a finishing artist.

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**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 4:17pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403/30 "2021-07-10T16:17:56Z")

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I like you being a finishing artist.

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**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 7:50pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403/31 "2021-07-10T19:50:51Z")

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me too

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**Author:** ![ZiggyDfx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c68b51/32.png) [@ZiggyDfx](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ZiggyDfx)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 9:38pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403/32 "2021-07-10T21:38:52Z")

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Same

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**Author:** ![ZiggyDfx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c68b51/32.png) [@ZiggyDfx](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ZiggyDfx)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403/33 "2021-07-10T21:42:43Z")

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Melbourne is cool, I went back to london 2019 to sell my apartment and visit my old company MPC and friends:)

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**Author:** ![lambertz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9dc877/32.png) [@lambertz](https://forum.logik.tv/u/lambertz)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403/34 "2021-07-11T01:32:54Z")

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We all miss you ziggy !!!

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**Author:** ![ihatebrianwilliams](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ihatebrianwilliams/32/1065_2.png) [@ihatebrianwilliams](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ihatebrianwilliams)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 4:28am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403/35 "2021-07-11T04:28:54Z")

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Maybe Simon is still on the anniversary edition? There are some people and places that are reluctant to get to close to the leading edge of technology. 🥸

Very strange post. I hope he comes back and fills us in on what he sees as a better way to get all the various tasks we are asked to do.

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**Author:** ![MikeV](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/mikev/32/399_2.png) [@MikeV](https://forum.logik.tv/u/MikeV)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 6:18am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403/36 "2021-07-11T06:18:36Z")

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I’m trying to understand the point of this post… If you’ve moved on to different software why come here and have your first post be so negative? Why post at all? If you really care, try making a difference here instead of just bitching…

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**Author:** ![ZiggyDfx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c68b51/32.png) [@ZiggyDfx](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ZiggyDfx)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 7:48am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403/37 "2021-07-11T07:48:03Z")

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Miss you to my french friend 🙂 also Xoff and Alex 🙂

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**Author:** ![Tallen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/tallen/32/668_2.png) [@Tallen](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Tallen)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 7:58am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403/38 "2021-07-11T07:58:09Z")

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I can see where you’re coming from Simon, but I definitely disagree overall. There other comping platforms out there definitely have some tools that are better in some aspects, when compared to Flame, but I still find Flame’s turnkey system the most robust and seamless when it comes to covering a multitude of disciplines all in one package, without having to switch between multiple platforms to do different tasks.

At the end of the day it’s down to what you’re using the tool for and what your work mainly entails. More power to you if you have found a tool that does what you need, better, faster and cheaper.

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**Author:** ![FlameTrinity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47c2d/32.png) [@FlameTrinity](https://forum.logik.tv/u/FlameTrinity)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 9:59am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403/40 "2021-07-12T09:59:11Z")

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I would have been really interested in understanding the main issues that motivated the original post.  
Maybe they were a collection of small things, or a list of big things. Either way, it would have been interesting to know.

Not that I could do anything about it now…

The thread grew quite large so I hope I didn’t miss a reply. Apologies if I did.

Philippe Soeiro

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**Author:** ![johnt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/johnt/32/14040_2.png) [@johnt](https://forum.logik.tv/u/johnt)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 3:32pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/i-wished-i-still-could-be-a-flame-advocate/3403/41 "2021-07-13T15:32:25Z")

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I think I feel like that on those days when the client…

(Continue on a separate sheet if necessary)

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