# Inconsequential Poll About Nodes

**URL:** <https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661>\
**Category:** Between Renders\
**Tags:** batch\
**Created:** [December 14, 2023, 7:27pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661 "2023-12-14T19:27:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![andy\_dill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/andy_dill/32/47_2.png) [@andy\_dill](https://forum.logik.tv/u/andy_dill)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 7:27pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/1 "2023-12-14T19:27:28Z")

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chose the one you want to see improved. only one.

_Poll ([view on site](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/1))_

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**Author:** ![andy\_dill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/andy_dill/32/47_2.png) [@andy\_dill](https://forum.logik.tv/u/andy_dill)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 7:29pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/2 "2023-12-14T19:29:25Z")

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looks like I can edit the poll so if you really wanna vote for something else you can suggest it. no promises; I’m a busy dude.

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**Author:** ![johnt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/johnt/32/14040_2.png) [@johnt](https://forum.logik.tv/u/johnt)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 8:12pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/3 "2023-12-14T20:12:58Z")

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I cannot decide.

However there is something not on your list which would be ace: filtering. I get a little annoyed that picture seems to become softer in flame compared to nuke. Their cubic filtering is pretty good.

As a work around I do try resizing in log but it’s still softer. Especially when removing lens distortion.

**edit I chose**

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**Author:** ![PlaceYourBetts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/placeyourbetts/32/6852_2.png) [@PlaceYourBetts](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PlaceYourBetts)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/4 "2023-12-14T20:21:21Z")

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I am also struggling to pick one.

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**Author:** ![hBomb42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bbce88/32.png) [@hBomb42](https://forum.logik.tv/u/hBomb42)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/5 "2023-12-14T20:31:37Z")

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I went with Distort. The other ones I all have other options for in other programs. Distort…every time I’ve tried it in the last 10 years it has eaten my splines halfway through animating. It’s not embarrassing for me to have to go out of Flame for particles, but it’s embarrassing as all get out when the million dollar morph box from years gone by can’t do a spline morph. I get asked to do a morph about once every three years, though…

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**Author:** ![Sinan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/sinan/32/155_2.png) [@Sinan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Sinan)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 8:33pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/6 "2023-12-14T20:33:09Z")

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Well, I wanted surface tools in action for the exact same functionality.

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**Author:** ![PlaceYourBetts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/placeyourbetts/32/6852_2.png) [@PlaceYourBetts](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PlaceYourBetts)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 8:40pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/7 "2023-12-14T20:40:28Z")

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I can’t help but feel like this is a response to the [Let’s talk about Text, baby](https://forum.logik.tv/t/lets-talk-about-text-baby/9615) thread where apparently Text was the #1 request for an update.

I wonder if you allowed multiple vote options which one would continuously be selected by most people along with other stuff.

I’m not going to say that Text is the most exciting thing I do on Flame and if I am asked to choose one from the above I am more likely to choose Distort (spline) because I have to use Extended Bicubics to get around that one.

Or my lens distort pipeline continues to frustrate me although I have found ways to work around that one.

I am one of the few who uses cache on nodes (yellow button) but I know that it can be unstable.

Who wouldn’t want a new keyer?

🤔 I think I can play the game and choose just one but I won’t be happy with my choice 🤣

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**Author:** ![cnoellert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/cnoellert/32/559_2.png) [@cnoellert](https://forum.logik.tv/u/cnoellert)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 10:04pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/8 "2023-12-14T22:04:15Z")

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Some folks know what’s up.

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**Author:** ![andy\_dill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/andy_dill/32/47_2.png) [@andy\_dill](https://forum.logik.tv/u/andy_dill)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 10:40pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/9 "2023-12-14T22:40:38Z")

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> [@PlaceYourBetts](#):
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> I can’t help but feel like this is a response

it is.

limiting everyone to one vote demonstrates the diversity of the wishlist better than a buffet of options. Also, if my own buffet experience is any indication, most of us would vote for most everything and the takeaway would be “people think Glow is fine as-is”

also worth noting: Paint presently has zero votes. 2016 me is losing his fucking mind. haha.

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**Author:** ![andy\_dill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/andy_dill/32/47_2.png) [@andy\_dill](https://forum.logik.tv/u/andy_dill)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 10:41pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/10 "2023-12-14T22:41:55Z")

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That specific option was added as bait. 😃

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**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 10:44pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/11 "2023-12-14T22:44:58Z")

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Personally I would like to see optic come back and work the way it used to. It used to be really nice. Now it’s about has all the sensitivity of a ball-peen hammer.

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**Author:** ![PlaceYourBetts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/placeyourbetts/32/6852_2.png) [@PlaceYourBetts](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PlaceYourBetts)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 10:46pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/12 "2023-12-14T22:46:14Z")

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I am happy that i can keep changing my vote

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**Author:** ![cnoellert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/cnoellert/32/559_2.png) [@cnoellert](https://forum.logik.tv/u/cnoellert)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 11:14pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/13 "2023-12-14T23:14:56Z")

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Aren’t they all though?

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**Author:** ![PlaceYourBetts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/placeyourbetts/32/6852_2.png) [@PlaceYourBetts](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PlaceYourBetts)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 11:25pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/14 "2023-12-14T23:25:08Z")

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Oh wait 🤣 I can see that you called it “Inconsequential”. 😮‍💨

I have been unable to work. Just switching my vote every few minutes.

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**Author:** ![Ton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ton/32/5542_2.png) [@Ton](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Ton)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 8:48am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/15 "2023-12-15T08:48:24Z")

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> [@andy\_dill](#):
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> …chose the one you want to see improved. only one.PaintTextAction ParticleAction Surface (bicubics n such)Distort (spline one)DeformDamageRegrainMulti-Channel EverthingDepth of FieldBlurKeyersMotionVectors (of all varieties and utility)TimewarpSubstance TexturesGlowAction 3D stuff - non Lighting and RenderingAction 3d stuff - Lighting and Rendering0voters

But… I WANT IT ALL!! 😛

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**Author:** ![paul\_round](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/paul_round/32/389_2.png) [@paul\_round](https://forum.logik.tv/u/paul_round)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 9:52am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/16 "2023-12-15T09:52:16Z")

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Keyers, specifically for blue / green screen. We still have nothing as good as keylight, (IMO), which is a real concern for me now that sparks are deprecated.

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**Author:** ![ALan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a87d85/32.png) [@ALan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ALan)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/17 "2023-12-15T21:33:01Z")

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I agree, but Primatte via Silhoutte is powerful.

> [@paul\_round](#):
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> Keyers, specifically for blue / green screen. We still have nothing as good as keylight, (IMO), which is a real concern for me now that sparks are deprecated.

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**Author:** ![paul\_round](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/paul_round/32/389_2.png) [@paul\_round](https://forum.logik.tv/u/paul_round)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 10:50pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/18 "2023-12-15T22:50:22Z")

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That maybe, but I’m looking for a solution within flame.

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**Author:** ![johnt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/johnt/32/14040_2.png) [@johnt](https://forum.logik.tv/u/johnt)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 9:16am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/19 "2023-12-16T09:16:28Z")

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> [@andy\_dill](#):
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> also worth noting: Paint presently has zero votes. 2016 me is losing his fucking mind. haha.

Paint is pretty good in flame. So much better than Nuke and it does what I need it to for comping.

These days if I need anything more, I use Procreate.

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**Author:** ![allklier](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/allklier/32/4309_2.png) [@allklier](https://forum.logik.tv/u/allklier)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 1:41pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/inconsequential-poll-about-nodes/9661/20 "2023-12-16T13:41:29Z")

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Indeed. There are a few things I would love to see in Paint, and just had a few items on that in the RUG submissions. But I voted for the keyers, as I think they’re further behind and harder to use than they have to be. Paint in Flame is good enough for most things, and there are alternative tools that fill the gap that are fine workflow wise. Other nodes are much harder to roundtrip for if necessary. Also it just got some love, so most folks probably think, it’s not going to be a priority for more changes soon.

It’s a good poll as Andy put it, because it highlights where people have their paint points. There are always a lot of things that could be better in a perfect world, but all of us have different things that hold us back the most. Which is why it’s not trivial for ADSK to pick and make folks happy.

Overall I find though that ADSK is looking the most at the feature improvement votes, and yet so many of us don’t peruse that list or keep voting. How many posts have you seen lately where an issue has been in the list for a long time and people complain about it, but didn’t vote it up? Seems like a regular thing, and I’m totally guilty of it. So much easier to just write a post and gripe here than place your chips on that somewhat cumbersome roulette wheel.

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