# It's time to update the safe area guides
**URL:** https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573
**Category:** Between Renders
**Tags:** safety-guides
**Created:** [March 31, 2025, 9:31pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573 "2025-03-31T21:31:12Z")
**Posts on this page:** 19
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### Author:  [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)
#### Post date: [March 31, 2025, 9:31pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573/1 "2025-03-31T21:31:12Z")
15 years is long enough to wait. Can we please get these fixed? Upvote: [Autodesk Feedback Community](https://feedback.autodesk.com/project/feedback/view.html?cap=5afe6c84-5cb3-447a-b36c-cbd7f0688f84&uf=a2e0680d-2ab0-4e18-9070-666cbc3fe948&nextsteps=1&nextstepsf=8fbadb72-c1b4-44ad-b55e-888e3fdc17e4&nextstepsuf=a2e0680d-2ab0-4e18-9070-666cbc3fe948)
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### Author:  [@bryanb](https://forum.logik.tv/u/bryanb)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2025, 12:38am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573/2 "2025-04-01T00:38:14Z")
Let’s wait it out a little bit more… it might not stick.
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### Author:  [@Fabi](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Fabi)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2025, 7:22am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573/3 "2025-04-01T07:22:30Z")
that would be great, I voted for it.
I built my safe area overlays using this pdf.
[SafeAreas.pdf](https://forum.logik.tv/uploads/short-url/rqOiRULw9fyL5shOxzBCFAtrNES.pdf) (1,1 MB)
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### Author:  [@PVR](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PVR)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2025, 9:06am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573/4 "2025-04-01T09:06:45Z")
Here in India they still use the oldschool safe area guides. I always have to make sure logo’s and legals fall in the oldschool title safety area. Oh and also have to deliver in HD and PAL 720x576 4:3 🙂
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### Author:  [@hBomb42](https://forum.logik.tv/u/hBomb42)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2025, 2:32pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573/5 "2025-04-01T14:32:16Z")
Yousureaboutthat.gif
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### Author:  [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2025, 2:48pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573/6 "2025-04-01T14:48:19Z")
Every time I follow this the clients says “forget it.” Nothing ever gets bounced. Sadly, of course, I have to show them first.
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### Author:  [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2025, 12:44am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573/7 "2025-04-02T00:44:59Z")
I’ll start caring about title safe when we kill web and broadcast mixes.
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### Author:  [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2025, 2:07am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573/8 "2025-04-02T02:07:50Z")
Ummm . . . not really following the logic here. Then again, considering your history with a company that refused to acknowledge the change for 10 years, and actually tell clients I was wrong, I can expect there may be some confusion on your part. Let it go. Free yourself from those Millish constraints.
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### Author:  [@PVR](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PVR)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2025, 7:03am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573/9 "2025-04-02T07:03:13Z")
Again, here in India they use same sound for broadcast and web. Only just apply -10dB gain before exporting…simple… 🙂
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### Author:  [@hildebrandtbernd](https://forum.logik.tv/u/hildebrandtbernd)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2025, 9:39am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573/10 "2025-04-02T09:39:29Z")
For Europe I already have so many different safe area templates, having the EBU 2018 guidline vanilla in flame wouldn"t change a thing; as all other, monthly changing, ones’ll need to be loaded in manually anyway and they are like 80% of needed safes nowadays.
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### Author:  [@Ton](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Ton)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2025, 11:44am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573/11 "2025-04-02T11:44:23Z")
I’ve prompted Claude.ai to create a matchbox with those safe areas… .. it got close, but then I got distracted.. and probably needs someone who actually understands writing matchbox shaders..
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### Author:  [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2025, 1:30pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573/12 "2025-04-02T13:30:07Z")
> [@ytf](#):
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> Ummm . . . not really following the logic here. Then again, considering your history with a company that refused to acknowledge the change for 10 years, and actually tell clients I was wrong, I can expect there may be some confusion on your part. Let it go. Free yourself from those Millish constraints.
Rumor has it that was the straw that broke the camels back.
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### Author:  [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2025, 2:24pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573/13 "2025-04-02T14:24:35Z")
I think the reason I have such a bug up my ass about this is because the guides are actually labeled Safe Action and Safe Title, which for most of the world, they’re not. Perhaps the upgrade would be to simply have an adjustment based on percentage, rather than hard numbers which are not valid across all sizes of output. It would also be nice if there were a way to create paths which could be converted to guides so that we could keep a collection of the ever-changing _maiandros_ of social media guides.
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### Author:  [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2025, 2:31pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573/14 "2025-04-02T14:31:24Z")
For what it’s worth, I am so fucking over this -14, -24 thing. The kicker is that most platforms dump it down to -24 anyway.
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### Author:  [@philm](https://forum.logik.tv/u/philm)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2025, 3:34pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573/15 "2025-04-02T15:34:04Z")
Wouldn’t it be a fine thing if legals and disclaimers were metadata that could be generated on the fly for each viewing platform.
Kind of like subtitles or closed captioning.
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### Author:  [@fredwarren](https://forum.logik.tv/u/fredwarren)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2025, 1:11pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573/16 "2025-07-29T13:11:15Z")
The Safe areas have been updated in 2026.1 Update.
> **[Help](https://help.autodesk.com/view/FLAME/2026/ENU/?guid=wn-2026-1-overlays)**
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### Author:  [@johnag](https://forum.logik.tv/u/johnag)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2025, 3:59am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573/17 "2025-07-31T03:59:57Z")
maybe they should put the disclaimers into the closed captions
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### Author:  [@AamirQ](https://forum.logik.tv/u/AamirQ)
#### Post date: [May 18, 2026, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573/18 "2026-05-18T20:24:56Z")
Many thx, Fred.
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### Author:  [@andy\_dill](https://forum.logik.tv/u/andy_dill)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2026, 6:24pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/its-time-to-update-the-safe-area-guides/12573/19 "2026-05-19T18:24:31Z")
I’d like a safe area that overlays a large “YOLO” on the screen, as that best represents the legal guidelines I receive.