# Large Matte Painting **URL:** \ **Category:** Flame Questions\ **Tags:** action, batch\ **Created:** [September 18, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/large-matte-painting/11429 "2024-09-18T21:43:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![onlycarlyouknow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/onlycarlyouknow/32/2535_2.png) [@onlycarlyouknow](https://forum.logik.tv/u/onlycarlyouknow)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/large-matte-painting/11429/1 "2024-09-18T21:43:41Z")
I’m getting a very large matte painting sent to me, supposedly about 40,000 pixels wide. Does anyone know if it’s more efficient processor/graphics wise to have it broken into more, smaller pieces or fewer, larger pieces? The guy doing it doesn’t seem to care. I’m on an Intel Mac Pro(2019) but I could move this to a linux box if need be. ---
**Author:** ![PlaceYourBetts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/placeyourbetts/32/6852_2.png) [@PlaceYourBetts](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PlaceYourBetts)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/large-matte-painting/11429/2 "2024-09-18T23:01:22Z")
If I was you, I would want it to be only as big as I need it to be for my comp but that will be very hard to judge and you will probably want to change your mind. My terminal tells me that your maximum will be 16384. `GRAPHICS: max texture resolution: 16384x16384` I have some 360 HDRs this big and they are very slow to work with but I wrap them on a sphere and quickly select what I need and pre pre-render them cropped before I feed that into my setups. Can you do your own tiling in Photoshop? Get it supplied in full and you prep the 16K tiles? ---
**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/large-matte-painting/11429/3 "2024-09-18T23:01:52Z")
I think you can map it to a 40k surface without tiling. But a Mac Pro may not handle it well. Edit: Ok, maybe not that big, It seems to max out at about 30k ---
**Author:** ![onlycarlyouknow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/onlycarlyouknow/32/2535_2.png) [@onlycarlyouknow](https://forum.logik.tv/u/onlycarlyouknow)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/large-matte-painting/11429/4 "2024-09-19T00:54:23Z")
Ok thanks guys, I guess i’ll just see what happens. So far I gave him the max size and then he gave me four 20405x11479 files so let’s hope his matte painting skills are better than his maths. ---
**Author:** ![AdamArcher](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/adamarcher/32/3529_2.png) [@AdamArcher](https://forum.logik.tv/u/AdamArcher)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 1:43am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/large-matte-painting/11429/5 "2024-09-19T01:43:52Z")
Please tell me that this matte painting will be used on a variety of shots with largely different framings/angles and/or have some massive zooms/tracks in or out that will utilise the resolution. ---
**Author:** ![Sinan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/sinan/32/155_2.png) [@Sinan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Sinan)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 6:44am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/large-matte-painting/11429/6 "2024-09-19T06:44:02Z")
I would scale those four tiles down to 16384 x 9180. Action can handle a max res of 16K and this will most probably be enough for you. No one will miss that 20% size reduction, imho. ---
**Author:** ![theoman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@theoman](https://forum.logik.tv/u/theoman)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/large-matte-painting/11429/7 "2024-09-19T16:46:02Z")
depending on how you are using the DMP and what the scale up will be in your setups you most prob wont need that high a resolution. Its best for speed sake to optimise and scale it down or tile it if need me in photoshop first so your flame is not working overtime unecessarily ---
**Author:** ![onlycarlyouknow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/onlycarlyouknow/32/2535_2.png) [@onlycarlyouknow](https://forum.logik.tv/u/onlycarlyouknow)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 6:04pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/large-matte-painting/11429/8 "2024-09-19T18:04:53Z")
Overhead shot of a woman walking on a beach and then we zooooom straight up into the sky revealing the beautiful tropical island she’s on, clouds wipe the scene aaaand LOGO. I said can’t we just do this with Unreal or something but no one wanted to pay the 3d dudes. ---
**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/large-matte-painting/11429/9 "2024-09-19T18:35:44Z")
You could map the full size tiles onto a planes, but I would go with Sinan’s advice. ---
**Author:** ![Sinan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/sinan/32/155_2.png) [@Sinan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Sinan)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/large-matte-painting/11429/10 "2024-09-19T18:52:41Z")
Well, it seems nothing has changed since the 90s. The mega pullback is still here. ---
**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/large-matte-painting/11429/11 "2024-09-19T19:12:15Z")
The Cosmic Zoom we called it, probably in reference to Charles and Ray Eames’ _Powers of Ten_. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/e/e72fd54f43bb618561dfbad198837b7821f73f49.jpeg "Powers of Ten™ (1977)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0) ---
**Author:** ![Josh\_Laurence](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/josh_laurence/32/1243_2.png) [@Josh\_Laurence](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Josh_Laurence)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 7:01am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/large-matte-painting/11429/12 "2024-09-20T07:01:34Z")
Thanks for posting that link. Such a brilliant piece of work. ---
**Author:** ![rickyexpress](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e7dd6/32.png) [@rickyexpress](https://forum.logik.tv/u/rickyexpress)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/large-matte-painting/11429/13 "2024-09-21T22:20:37Z")
> [@onlycarlyouknow](#): > > Overhead shot of a woman walking on a beach and then we zooooom straight up into the sky revealing the beautiful tropical island she’s on, clouds wipe the scene aaaand LOGO. > > I said can’t we just do this with Unreal or something but no one wanted to pay the 3d dudes. What’s the delivery size? Tell me social aspects for cell phones, and I’d say knock that whole plate down to 4k and call it a day. 😉