# Logic Astra 2 Autodesk Smoke keyboard on Mac Issue Mark In Mark out quick keys don't function

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**Created:** [February 18, 2023, 4:46pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/logic-astra-2-autodesk-smoke-keyboard-on-mac-issue-mark-in-mark-out-quick-keys-dont-function/7760 "2023-02-18T16:46:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![JimmyC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5fc32e/32.png) [@JimmyC](https://forum.logik.tv/u/JimmyC)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 4:46pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/logic-astra-2-autodesk-smoke-keyboard-on-mac-issue-mark-in-mark-out-quick-keys-dont-function/7760/1 "2023-02-18T16:46:53Z")

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Just bought a Logic Astra 2 Autodesk keyboard and the Mark In and Mark out keys don’t function. Im running flame 2023.1 on iMac pro Big Sur 11.7.3. Has anyone had this issue? I need to fix this…  
Thanks all!!

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/logic-astra-2-autodesk-smoke-keyboard-on-mac-issue-mark-in-mark-out-quick-keys-dont-function/7760/2 "2023-02-18T18:21:02Z")

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Hey @JimmyC

This is a strange problem. We do have people experiencing keyboard problems. On the Mac these seem to fall into two categories.  
Remote operations and the tilde key not working. ~~No one has ever reported a problem with the Mark In and Out keys.~~

Edit: I just saw this when I did a search [Keyboard problem - OSX 11.2](https://forum.logik.tv/t/keyboard-problem-osx-11-2/2386)

Just to be clear, are we talking about [and] ?

Do these keys work for you in any other programs? Try typing them into a text document. If the keyboard works everywhere else but in Flame then you could try this - [Keyboard not functioning 2022.1](https://forum.logik.tv/t/keyboard-not-functioning-2022-1/5270)

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**Author:** ![JimmyC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5fc32e/32.png) [@JimmyC](https://forum.logik.tv/u/JimmyC)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 7:21pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/logic-astra-2-autodesk-smoke-keyboard-on-mac-issue-mark-in-mark-out-quick-keys-dont-function/7760/3 "2023-02-18T19:21:36Z")

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> [@PlaceYourBetts](#):
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> [and] ?

Hello,  
Thank you so much for the post. The logic keyboard has 2 dedicated keys to the right of the space bar with mark in mark out written on them that are for editing in the timeline. I use the Smoke Classic user profile and those keys dont work. The [and] keys do work in other programs but not when Im editing in the timeline in flame either. Im using the pull down menu to mark my edits and it is so lame .This is such a bummer because I just bought this keyboard and I was hoping to use it to speed through my timeline edits  
JimmyC

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/logic-astra-2-autodesk-smoke-keyboard-on-mac-issue-mark-in-mark-out-quick-keys-dont-function/7760/4 "2023-02-18T19:26:07Z")

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Maybe you need to assign the keys to that function. Given that this is a smoke keyboard it might need some customisation inside Flame before it will work for you. Have you been into the hot key editor?

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**Author:** ![JimmyC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5fc32e/32.png) [@JimmyC](https://forum.logik.tv/u/JimmyC)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/logic-astra-2-autodesk-smoke-keyboard-on-mac-issue-mark-in-mark-out-quick-keys-dont-function/7760/5 "2023-02-18T20:04:25Z")

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I think thats my next move but now I have a stone and wire issue. What a day.  
JimmyC

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 8:39pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/logic-astra-2-autodesk-smoke-keyboard-on-mac-issue-mark-in-mark-out-quick-keys-dont-function/7760/6 "2023-02-18T20:39:24Z")

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Check to see if the Mac recognises those keys. I just looked up your keyboard and those keys are actually right-CTL and right-ALT.

Not uniquely special keys. In fact they should be working as Mark In and Out if you are using the Smoke hot key configuration.

Perhaps your Mac doesn’t know the correct keyboard layout.

FYI - [Today I learned… - #54 by johnag](https://forum.logik.tv/t/today-i-learned/5559/54)

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/logic-astra-2-autodesk-smoke-keyboard-on-mac-issue-mark-in-mark-out-quick-keys-dont-function/7760/7 "2023-02-20T17:16:23Z")

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Not sure about Alt, but Mac may give priority to Control as a Modifier Key.

You can change that in System Preferences:

 ![Screen Shot 2023-02-20 at 9.15.34 AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/1/15bd0c5ce2dd3322d53a83e61de00e15aed58d22.png)

-Ted

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/logic-astra-2-autodesk-smoke-keyboard-on-mac-issue-mark-in-mark-out-quick-keys-dont-function/7760/8 "2023-02-20T18:14:30Z")

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Same Astra 2 keyboard here. I use Karabiner to dynamically swap Command and Option so the keyboard behaves like a linux keyboard, but I notice that it breaks Flame seeing Left vs Right option/command and thus breaking Mark In Mark out.

I made my hotkeys I and O. Like Final Cut.

Mark in Mark out works if I turned off Karabiner. Load a clean Smoke Classic. Make sure to fiddle with the type of keyboard in Keyboard Shortcuts.

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/logic-astra-2-autodesk-smoke-keyboard-on-mac-issue-mark-in-mark-out-quick-keys-dont-function/7760/9 "2023-02-20T18:21:34Z")

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Thank you Ted!

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 6:24pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/logic-astra-2-autodesk-smoke-keyboard-on-mac-issue-mark-in-mark-out-quick-keys-dont-function/7760/10 "2023-02-20T18:24:46Z")

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> [@PlaceYourBetts](#):
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> …Check to see if the Mac recognises those keys. I just looked up your keyboard and those keys are actually right-CTL and right-ALT.Not uniquely special keys. In fact they should be working as Mark In and Out if you are using the Smoke hot key configuration.Perhaps your Mac doesn’t know the correct keyboard layout.FYI -

Thank you for all your help. I had a complete system meltdown on Saturday and had to factory reset my Mac and reload everything. Crazy day but I have everything working now including the keyboard!!!

Best Regards,  
JimmyC

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 6:26pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/logic-astra-2-autodesk-smoke-keyboard-on-mac-issue-mark-in-mark-out-quick-keys-dont-function/7760/11 "2023-02-20T18:26:25Z")

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Awesome info, thank you for the help!!  
JimmyC

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 8:12pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/logic-astra-2-autodesk-smoke-keyboard-on-mac-issue-mark-in-mark-out-quick-keys-dont-function/7760/12 "2023-02-20T20:12:53Z")

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> [@aaronneitz](#):
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> …e. I use Karabiner to dynamically swap Command and Option so the keyboard behaves like a linux keyboard, but I notice that it breaks Flame seeing Left vs Right option/command and thus breaking Mark In Mark out.I made my hotkeys I and O. Like Final Cut.Mark in Mark out works if I turned off Karabiner. Load a clean Smoke Classic. Make sure to fiddle with the type of keyboard in Keyboard Shortcuts.

I might need to talk to you about Karabiner and how it might help me access F15 when using Teradici.  
I found the program to be a little hard to figure out.

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**Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 1:32am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/logic-astra-2-autodesk-smoke-keyboard-on-mac-issue-mark-in-mark-out-quick-keys-dont-function/7760/13 "2023-02-21T01:32:15Z")

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It was a head scratcher. Their basic GUI menu is so limited.

I ended up copying a Maya keyboard script that someone wrote and just swapped the word Maya for Flame.
