# Motion Vectors from Redshift **URL:** \ **Category:** Flame Questions\ **Created:** [March 30, 2022, 12:57am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/motion-vectors-from-redshift/5429 "2022-03-30T00:57:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![onlycarlyouknow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/onlycarlyouknow/32/2535_2.png) [@onlycarlyouknow](https://forum.logik.tv/u/onlycarlyouknow)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 12:57am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/motion-vectors-from-redshift/5429/1 "2022-03-30T00:57:25Z")
Does anyone have some experience with motion passes from Redshift/C4D? Trying to figure out if there is some trick i’m missing or if these are just f’ed up somehow. I’m used to motion passes from Arnold/Maya and comparatively these seem very… subtle? If I turn on icons in the Motion Blur node all I see is a grid of dots and if I crank up Amount I get a pretty uniform blur. Something I’m missing? ---
**Author:** ![PlaceYourBetts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/placeyourbetts/32/6852_2.png) [@PlaceYourBetts](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PlaceYourBetts)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 3:20am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/motion-vectors-from-redshift/5429/2 "2022-03-30T03:20:30Z")
It is on my list of things to investigate. I haven’'t got there yet. I think that there are a couple of different types of Motion Vectors and I have tried to convert them using the Flame tool but I got a much better result converting them via Nuke. This isn’t my solve, just a bandage. I intend to figure out what type we need Redshift to give Flame in order for it to work properly. ---
**Author:** ![onlycarlyouknow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/onlycarlyouknow/32/2535_2.png) [@onlycarlyouknow](https://forum.logik.tv/u/onlycarlyouknow)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 8:57pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/motion-vectors-from-redshift/5429/3 "2022-03-30T20:57:04Z")
So I brought this up in our team meeting and apparently everyone else is just tweaking the vector pass with a color correct until they get some motion blur they like. On the other hand everyone on this job but me is comping in AE which is part of why I didn’t try picking their brains in the first place. One of them did find some other people complaining about it online, so I guess it’s not just our problem though. ---
**Author:** ![chrislovesflame](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/chrislovesflame/32/103_2.png) [@chrislovesflame](https://forum.logik.tv/u/chrislovesflame)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 8:12pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/motion-vectors-from-redshift/5429/4 "2022-03-31T20:12:56Z")
I think the Redshift default vectors are normalized to a [0,1] range, and clamped. Setting them to RAW and unclamped should give the result you’d expect from other renderers. ---
**Author:** ![onlycarlyouknow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/onlycarlyouknow/32/2535_2.png) [@onlycarlyouknow](https://forum.logik.tv/u/onlycarlyouknow)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/motion-vectors-from-redshift/5429/5 "2022-04-01T17:41:44Z")
Well they’re definitely normalized. I’m honestly not sure what you mean about setting them to RAW and unclamped, set where? ---
**Author:** ![chrislovesflame](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/chrislovesflame/32/103_2.png) [@chrislovesflame](https://forum.logik.tv/u/chrislovesflame)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/motion-vectors-from-redshift/5429/6 "2022-04-01T20:08:07Z")
Sorry, I meant in Redshift. Can you talk the 3D person into changing the render settings? ---
**Author:** ![onlycarlyouknow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/onlycarlyouknow/32/2535_2.png) [@onlycarlyouknow](https://forum.logik.tv/u/onlycarlyouknow)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 8:33pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/motion-vectors-from-redshift/5429/7 "2022-04-01T20:33:21Z")
Ooooooh. To late for this job but that’s great to know for the future, I’ll pass that along to them. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![onlycarlyouknow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/onlycarlyouknow/32/2535_2.png) [@onlycarlyouknow](https://forum.logik.tv/u/onlycarlyouknow)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2022, 2:23am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/motion-vectors-from-redshift/5429/8 "2022-04-02T02:23:00Z")
In case anyone else hits this, this is the correct answer. 3d dudes are having a render fest over the weekend now. Thanks Chris! ---
**Author:** ![PlaceYourBetts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/placeyourbetts/32/6852_2.png) [@PlaceYourBetts](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PlaceYourBetts)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2022, 2:59am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/motion-vectors-from-redshift/5429/9 "2022-04-02T02:59:41Z")
That’s good to know @onlycarlyouknow Thanks @chrislovesflame I can pass this along to our 3D team 👍