# New update: Flame now supports Apple M1! 🎉

**URL:** <https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875>\
**Category:** Logik Announcements\
**Created:** [January 19, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875 "2022-01-19T16:31:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jonhollis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jonhollis/32/11832_2.png) [@Jonhollis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jonhollis)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 8:27am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875/23 "2022-01-20T08:27:46Z")

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I just tried it on my MacBook Pro M1 max and it was about twice as fast at rendering than my 24 core Mac Pro with NVME! so its a good start

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**Author:** ![Jotoku](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Jotoku](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jotoku)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 8:43am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875/24 "2022-01-20T08:43:06Z")

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Dang! 😳 😱

Edit: 2019 Mac Pro? I may have to look closer at these units. Too bad I spent 6k on a laptop 4 months ago.

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**Author:** ![OkanS80](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f1d935/32.png) [@OkanS80](https://forum.logik.tv/u/OkanS80)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 8:48am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875/25 "2022-01-20T08:48:07Z")

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Good news are coming! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Jonhollis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jonhollis/32/11832_2.png) [@Jonhollis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jonhollis)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 10:15am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875/26 "2022-01-20T10:15:41Z")

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The latest cheese grater one. Just did another test. Hefty batch all sorts going on 4 min 50 on the Mac Pro and 2 mins 30 on the MacBook Pro. The Mac Pro is the latest with 196gb ram and nvme. The MacBook Pro is the M1 max with 64gb ram. It’s super snappy to use too.

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**Author:** ![Jotoku](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Jotoku](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jotoku)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 10:24am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875/27 "2022-01-20T10:24:56Z")

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Definitely unifying all of the core components has drastically reduced latency when it comes to moving data from, graphics, cpu, and ram. The M1 Max definitely benefits with that broad memory bandwidth

The question now is how it fairs against a good Linux machine 🧐

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**Author:** ![cnoellert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/cnoellert/32/559_2.png) [@cnoellert](https://forum.logik.tv/u/cnoellert)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 6:36pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875/29 "2022-01-20T18:36:04Z")

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> [@Jonhollis](#):
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> The latest cheese grater one. Just did another test. Hefty batch all sorts going on 4 min 50 on the Mac Pro and 2 mins 30 on the MacBook Pro. The Mac Pro is the latest with 196gb ram and nvme. The MacBook Pro is the M1 max with 64gb ram. It’s super snappy to use too.

Time to go shopping…

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**Author:** ![SamE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@SamE](https://forum.logik.tv/u/SamE)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875/30 "2022-01-20T18:42:46Z")

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Now if I could only get my Promise Pegasus2 to work on the new machine!

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**Author:** ![Jonhollis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jonhollis/32/11832_2.png) [@Jonhollis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jonhollis)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875/31 "2022-01-20T18:49:18Z")

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I’ll keep testing.

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**Author:** ![andy\_dill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/andy_dill/32/15475_2.png) [@andy\_dill](https://forum.logik.tv/u/andy_dill)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 8:44pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875/32 "2022-01-20T20:44:41Z")

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I’ve seen some good numbers as well. I ran some batch setups of mine through my 2013 trashcan, an M1 MacBook Air with 16 gigs of ram and a M1 Max MacBook Prowith 64 gigs.

The TLDR is I’ve been fairly happy with my trashcan running Flame, and the MacBook Pro is quite a bit faster.

**Setup 1: 2.5k media**  
5m 20s on the Trashcan  
2m 40s on the MBA  
1m45s on the MBP

**Setup 2: 4.5k media**  
4m 09s on the Trashcan  
8m 32s on the MBA  
1m 47s on the MBP

**Setup 3: 2.5k media**  
2m 37s on the Trashcan  
3m 09s on the MBA  
1m 31s on the MBP

**Setup 4: 4.5k media**  
2m 20s on the Trashcan  
1m 42s on the MBA  
0m 29s on the MBP

**Setup 5: 4.5k media**  
1m 03s on the Trashcan  
1m 01s on the MBA  
0m 30s on the MBP

**Setup 6: 4.5k media**  
0m 48s on the Trashcan  
0m 51s on the MBA  
0m 19s on the MBP

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**Author:** ![blakieman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@blakieman](https://forum.logik.tv/u/blakieman)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 11:43pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875/33 "2022-01-20T23:43:42Z")

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anychance someone with a threadpripper pro will get some render stats going? Mine’s not coming in for a few weeks.

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**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 12:30am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875/34 "2022-01-21T00:30:40Z")

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The benchmark exists. Fill it up.

> [@Flame Benchmark Archive](https://forum.logik.tv/t/flame-benchmark-archive/987/2):
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> Here is the link to my GDrive hosted spreadsheet, And this is the link to the flame archive hosted on my GDrive.

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**Author:** ![Jonhollis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jonhollis/32/11832_2.png) [@Jonhollis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jonhollis)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 8:34am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875/35 "2022-01-21T08:34:48Z")

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none of these benchmark things really matter though, basically it feels better than my Mac Pro and its quicker. can’t wait for it to be native. just think what could be achieved. You only have to look at how fast resolve is on the M1 max to see that.

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**Author:** ![Bjorn\_Benckert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/bjorn_benckert/32/3122_2.png) [@Bjorn\_Benckert](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Bjorn_Benckert)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 9:02am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875/36 "2022-01-21T09:02:00Z")

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Would be interesting to run one of those setups on our i9 / Hackintoch machines.

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**Author:** ![PeterK](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/peterk/32/14870_2.png) [@PeterK](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PeterK)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 10:00am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875/37 "2022-01-21T10:00:16Z")

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Downloadable Trial is not 2022.3 yet. Don’t try it…

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**Author:** ![PeterK](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/peterk/32/14870_2.png) [@PeterK](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PeterK)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 10:02am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875/38 "2022-01-21T10:02:14Z")

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It’s very interesting number!

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**Author:** ![Jeroenvb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@Jeroenvb](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jeroenvb)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 10:37am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875/39 "2022-01-21T10:37:06Z")

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But is there an intention to make it native?  
Would be amazing, I’m already amazed how well my M1 air handles Blender for example…

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**Author:** ![Jotoku](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Jotoku](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jotoku)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 11:36am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875/40 "2022-01-21T11:36:05Z")

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You mean Alder Lake? The numbers show that those CPUs are no joke, and are faster than M1. That is just the raw computing, and is one part of the equation. The Apple Silicon is unique not so much because the raw computing, but also due to its low latency among multiple components. Once native it will be very telling just the full capabilities of this new architecture. But as is, is rather impressive!

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**Author:** ![Jonhollis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/jonhollis/32/11832_2.png) [@Jonhollis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Jonhollis)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 6:12am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875/41 "2022-01-22T06:12:46Z")

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I hope so. There’s a lot of potential here. My MacBook Pro absolutely blasts through redshift and x particles stuff. And resolve is so fast.

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**Author:** ![Restless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3da27b/32.png) [@Restless](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Restless)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 11:48am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875/42 "2022-01-23T11:48:19Z")

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Autudesk still “recommends” intel chips… why?

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**Author:** ![FlameTrinity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47c2d/32.png) [@FlameTrinity](https://forum.logik.tv/u/FlameTrinity)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 12:01pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/new-update-flame-now-supports-apple-m1/4875/43 "2022-01-23T12:01:37Z")

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I would assume this is because M1 support relies on Rosetta 2?

Philippe Soeiro

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