# On Set Supervision - Rates (U.S.) **URL:** \ **Category:** Jobs\ **Created:** [March 31, 2022, 1:22pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/on-set-supervision-rates-u-s/5440 "2022-03-31T13:22:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DanMargules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@DanMargules](https://forum.logik.tv/u/DanMargules)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 1:22pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/on-set-supervision-rates-u-s/5440/1 "2022-03-31T13:22:34Z")
Hello fellow users, I did a search on the subject w/ no results. What is the going rate these days? (day rate) As expected, I am hearing some varying answers but the range is huge. curious what the response from this group will be šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![andymilkis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/andymilkis/32/11067_2.png) [@andymilkis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/andymilkis)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 3:15pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/on-set-supervision-rates-u-s/5440/2 "2022-03-31T15:15:03Z")
I believe our company charges $1500/day + travel expenses. ---
**Author:** ![GPM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/gpm/32/4224_2.png) [@GPM](https://forum.logik.tv/u/GPM)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 3:32pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/on-set-supervision-rates-u-s/5440/3 "2022-03-31T15:32:11Z")
Yeah $1,500 is pretty standard, at least in LA. ---
**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 4:24pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/on-set-supervision-rates-u-s/5440/4 "2022-03-31T16:24:49Z")
Yup. What can be difficult to get is travel days (not just travel expenses) and down days it there are breaks in the shooting schedule and you are from out-of-town. ---
**Author:** ![DanMargules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@DanMargules](https://forum.logik.tv/u/DanMargules)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/on-set-supervision-rates-u-s/5440/5 "2022-03-31T18:31:11Z")
1500 is what I thought it was, tho a little low in my opinion. Also RE: Travel/Down daysā€¦ I bill my days off as Half days and will not bend, even at that itā€™s low. Working or not, I am losing on a full billable day just to wait to do their job. ---
**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/on-set-supervision-rates-u-s/5440/6 "2022-03-31T19:12:56Z")
Iā€™m staff now, so itā€™s a moot point for me, but when I was independent I didnā€™t charge for down days if it was local, but charged full rate if I was working someplace that was not within commuting distance, and charged full rate for travel days. And for what itā€™s worth, I never had a down day. The night before, they would always ask if I could join them for meetings, or be available on lighting and set-up days. ---
**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 7:40pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/on-set-supervision-rates-u-s/5440/7 "2022-03-31T19:40:05Z")
Are you asking what a vfx supe should charge or what a studio charges itā€™s clients? A couple years ago major U.S. studios would charge around $2100 per day + $400 a day lodging. As a freelance shoot supe, I charged $1750 2 years ago, and now during covid I charge $2050. I also charge for travel days and down days are depending on duration and where they fall on the weekly calendar. ---
**Author:** ![DanMargules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@DanMargules](https://forum.logik.tv/u/DanMargules)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/on-set-supervision-rates-u-s/5440/8 "2022-03-31T22:37:25Z")
Yes, I was referencing the Freelance Supe rates. Iā€™m getting aa consensus closer to 1500, although it is almost not worth it at that price. Tim, I read you loud and clear on the days off on Travel, I have never had a day/night off as mentioned. I will be asking for 100% moving forward. And as for rate, I will probably be following in Randyā€™s footsteps as Covid Regulations have made an already stressful job that much harder. thanks for all of your input. d ---
**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 12:27am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/on-set-supervision-rates-u-s/5440/9 "2022-04-01T00:27:32Z")
Yeah $1500 is way low for commercials in my experience and opinion for on set work. One can easily make $1500-$1600 a day on average with OT working as a flame artist and a machine fee added on your own flame. Likely Iā€™m on the high end but still. ---
**Author:** ![SamE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@SamE](https://forum.logik.tv/u/SamE)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 3:18am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/on-set-supervision-rates-u-s/5440/10 "2022-04-01T03:18:40Z")
Iā€™ve probably undercharged for the commercials Iā€™ve done. I forgot to factor in the insecure directors. ---
**Author:** ![eric\_mason](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/eric_mason/32/257_2.png) [@eric\_mason](https://forum.logik.tv/u/eric_mason)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 6:27pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/on-set-supervision-rates-u-s/5440/11 "2022-04-01T18:27:03Z")
Just my 2c here: $1500 is a bit low, in my opinion. I personally canā€™t remember the last time I was on-set for less than a 12 hour day. Factor in all the e-mail correspondence, writing up detailed VFX notes, shooting and stitching HDRIs/light surveys, etcā€¦ Not to mention, youā€™re an _advocate_ for the VFX house that hired you. Thatā€™s worth something. Especially if youā€™re _saving_ them money by coming up w/ creative solutions on-set. Ounce of prevention, pound of cure type stuff, right? Also, you gotta make it worth it for _you_ too. If I can take a two week booking doing straight flame work vs. _maybe_ a three day shoot with a shifting scheduleā€¦? Not saying you should charge $5k/day or anything, but yeahā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![DanMargules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@DanMargules](https://forum.logik.tv/u/DanMargules)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2022, 11:32pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/on-set-supervision-rates-u-s/5440/12 "2022-04-02T23:32:13Z")
Bang On Eric. Thereā€™s not a single thing I disagree with here. I have always understood that I am the one to set the rate for ME, but knowing what the majority is doing is always importantā€¦ whether we choose to follow in those footsteps or not. Knowledge is power and knowing where you fit inā€¦but make no mistake, I am not under the impression that I have to ā€œfit inā€ anywhere. What I gather is that most are undercharging for thisā€¦ and I will continue to be on the higher end of the asking table. ---
**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 12:45pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/on-set-supervision-rates-u-s/5440/14 "2022-04-03T12:45:55Z")
Also, donā€™t forget about the anonymous wage spreadsheet. If you are a flame artist and vfx reviser, you can absolutely fill the form out multiple times for your different roles. As in, one entry for Flame, one entry for vfx supe. > [@moneybag Logik Anonymous Wage Survey moneybag](https://forum.logik.tv/t/logik-anonymous-wage-survey/962): > > Would you all be into having an Anonymous Rate Survey? [poll](https://forum.logik.tv/t/logik-anonymous-wage-survey/962/1) ---
**Author:** ![DanMargules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@DanMargules](https://forum.logik.tv/u/DanMargules)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/on-set-supervision-rates-u-s/5440/15 "2022-04-03T14:39:23Z")
There is no reason to hide this stuff from each other. The guys hiding rates are usually the ones undercutting the rest of the crowdā€¦ let them, they work a LOT harder for their money, and in most cases arenā€™t very good. ---
**Author:** ![SamE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@SamE](https://forum.logik.tv/u/SamE)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 9:20pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/on-set-supervision-rates-u-s/5440/16 "2022-04-04T21:20:35Z")
I donā€™t factor in a damn thing. I charge them a half day for pre-shoot meetings and a half day for data wrangling in addition to the shoot. If they want to have more than a half day of meetings, or more wrangling, Iā€™ll let them know what theyā€™re spending. I also charge for my kit, which can be camera rental, measurement equipment, and a computer rental to do the uploads and downloads. ---
**Author:** ![eric\_mason](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/eric_mason/32/257_2.png) [@eric\_mason](https://forum.logik.tv/u/eric_mason)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 9:46pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/on-set-supervision-rates-u-s/5440/17 "2022-04-04T21:46:54Z")
Nice. Thatā€™s good to know. Would be good to also know how many people like to itemize things out, or just wrap it into an overall dayrate, all-inclusive. Hope you werenā€™t thinking that I was responding directly to you, telling you how to factor in your variables or anything. Just giving thoughts to the overall threadā€¦ Personally, I just give a single dayrate that I think will fairly cover all my costs, save for travel/off days etcā€¦ Has anyone haggled you over itemized costs/ line-items or have people been pretty good about it? ---
**Author:** ![SamE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@SamE](https://forum.logik.tv/u/SamE)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 2:08am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/on-set-supervision-rates-u-s/5440/18 "2022-04-06T02:08:41Z")
I just give them the prices up front. Sometimes they want me to roll it in. I donā€™t like taking a bunch of phone calls for free. So I let them know I charge for it.