# Particle Bouncer - is it broken?

**URL:** <https://forum.logik.tv/t/particle-bouncer-is-it-broken/10228>\
**Category:** Flame Questions\
**Tags:** action, batch, particles\
**Created:** [March 6, 2024, 9:37am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/particle-bouncer-is-it-broken/10228 "2024-03-06T09:37:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![Lightningad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/lightningad/32/2191_2.png) [@Lightningad](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Lightningad)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 9:37am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/particle-bouncer-is-it-broken/10228/1 "2024-03-06T09:37:59Z")

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I’m trying to add a Particle Bouncer to my shot but what i’m seeing in Batch does not look like the Bouncer in Grants videos (a balloon whisk). Instead all i am seeing is a large cirlce of circles, with each one slightly twisted off axis from the others. I cannot figure out how to position this to get a particle bounce.

 ![Screenshot 2024-03-06 at 09.10.25](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/b/b494ab2229fec738d9f83c5273bf9041fb66040f.jpeg)

any ideas ?

I’m on Mac OS 13.6.3, Flame 2024.2

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**Author:** ![Sinan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/sinan/32/155_2.png) [@Sinan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Sinan)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 10:55am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/particle-bouncer-is-it-broken/10228/2 "2024-03-06T10:55:54Z")

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Yes, this gui glitch was reported by another artist couple of months back. I meant to create a video and make a bug report, but then forgot. It is a nuisance but the functionality still works.  
It would be great if you take the time to report this @Lightningad

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**Author:** ![Lightningad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/lightningad/32/2191_2.png) [@Lightningad](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Lightningad)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 11:12am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/particle-bouncer-is-it-broken/10228/3 "2024-03-06T11:12:27Z")

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i’ll do that Sinan.

Found that by making the bouncers axis a free one, i can move the axis itself and use that as a point deflector but with virtually no visual clues as to whats happening.

And as for making an image into a deflector - cannot get that to work at all.