# Particles crashing Flame on Mac **URL:** \ **Category:** Flame Questions\ **Tags:** particles\ **Created:** [June 16, 2025, 10:46am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/particles-crashing-flame-on-mac/13050 "2025-06-16T10:46:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rorcharch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/rorcharch/32/7627_2.png) [@rorcharch](https://forum.logik.tv/u/rorcharch)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 10:46am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/particles-crashing-flame-on-mac/13050/1 "2025-06-16T10:46:52Z")
Hi all, I’ve been experiencing repeated crashes when R&Ding particles for a project. Is this a known feature? I’m running 2025.2.2 on a MacStudio M1 Ultra with 128GB RAM and 20 cores. OS is Sequoia 15.5. Storage is SSD on OWC Thunderbay Flex 8. I’ve made a fresh 1920x1080 ACES 1.1 project and am using a Rec709 colour source as the generator. I’ve been following @Sinan’ s YT playlist https://www.youtube.com/embed/uCkdnKXQJmk?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PLQQxU7qY88c9c6zrvHqVQo680Xgp13i_b Mainly looking at the first video. To my mind this shouldn’t be too taxing but the interaction is very slow and Flame crashes repeatedly. Any thoughts much appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![Sinan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/sinan/32/155_2.png) [@Sinan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Sinan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 10:49am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/particles-crashing-flame-on-mac/13050/2 "2025-06-16T10:49:33Z")
Hi @rorcharch, I am usually on the Discord channel. Drop by and let me help you through it. > **[Join the Logik Discord Server!](https://discord.com/invite/PJNtTeZd)** > > Check out the Logik community on Discord - hang out with 954 other members and enjoy free voice and text chat. ---
**Author:** ![rorcharch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/rorcharch/32/7627_2.png) [@rorcharch](https://forum.logik.tv/u/rorcharch)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 1:40pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/particles-crashing-flame-on-mac/13050/3 "2025-06-16T13:40:29Z")
Thanks @sinan, so kind of you to spend time discussing this with me. ---
**Author:** ![julioleon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/julioleon/32/14482_2.png) [@julioleon](https://forum.logik.tv/u/julioleon)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/particles-crashing-flame-on-mac/13050/4 "2025-06-16T19:18:00Z")
In my opinion particles on a Mac are not that reliable. It causes crashes most of the time. ---
**Author:** ![Sinan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/sinan/32/155_2.png) [@Sinan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Sinan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 10:34pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/particles-crashing-flame-on-mac/13050/5 "2025-06-16T22:34:20Z")
I recorded all the videos in the above link on my 2017 MBP. Particles are fiddly but you can tame them. It’s like training a flea circus. You let them go and hope they get there. ---
**Author:** ![philm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/philm/32/9286_2.png) [@philm](https://forum.logik.tv/u/philm)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 10:37pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/particles-crashing-flame-on-mac/13050/6 "2025-06-16T22:37:08Z")
Wait wait ! Come back! He said flea circus, not “Flee! circus!” ---
**Author:** ![KuleshovEffect](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/kuleshoveffect/32/4928_2.png) [@KuleshovEffect](https://forum.logik.tv/u/KuleshovEffect)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 5:15pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/particles-crashing-flame-on-mac/13050/7 "2025-06-17T17:15:20Z")
> [@rorcharch](#): > > Thanks , so kind of you to spend time discussing this with me. If y’all figure out a solve, please share it back here! -Ted ---
**Author:** ![Sinan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/sinan/32/155_2.png) [@Sinan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Sinan)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 6:28pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/particles-crashing-flame-on-mac/13050/8 "2025-06-17T18:28:33Z")
It was basically that the number of particles generated per frame was too big. I showed some pathways to generate particles that would use a lower number of them. So it wasn’t a solution to a single problem but getting a better idea of how the particles in Flame work as a system. I’m usually on Discord, so if anyone has questions about particles ping me there. More than happy to help out.