# Questions about your Auto Key usage

**URL:** <https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954>\
**Category:** Flame Questions\
**Created:** [October 5, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954 "2021-10-05T12:32:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![leowoo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/leowoo/32/1371_2.png) [@leowoo](https://forum.logik.tv/u/leowoo)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954/24 "2021-10-11T06:13:38Z")

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Having the X,Y and Z channels linked by default in the scale parameter would be awesome! Is there already some shortcut / key combo for this? Maybe if you could press L for link and drag a connection from one to the other would be cool? Either directly on the slider values in the axis or in the animation curves.

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**Author:** ![andy\_dill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/andy_dill/32/15475_2.png) [@andy\_dill](https://forum.logik.tv/u/andy_dill)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954/25 "2021-10-11T18:14:38Z")

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> [@Unclextacy](#):
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> Yeah I’d love to be able to have more options on the Autokey button. There was a trippy one a while ago that I used a lot

Right-click it.

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**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954/26 "2021-10-11T18:48:55Z")

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I learn something new every day . . . .

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**Author:** ![julioleon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/julioleon/32/14482_2.png) [@julioleon](https://forum.logik.tv/u/julioleon)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 10:10pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954/27 "2021-10-11T22:10:44Z")

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This shortcut exists for several versions back.

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**Author:** ![julioleon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/julioleon/32/14482_2.png) [@julioleon](https://forum.logik.tv/u/julioleon)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 10:11pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954/28 "2021-10-11T22:11:32Z")

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Sounds like a good idea… Will try it.

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**Author:** ![fredwarren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/fredwarren/32/158_2.png) [@fredwarren](https://forum.logik.tv/u/fredwarren)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954/29 "2022-04-20T19:17:36Z")

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I am revisiting this after @Jonhollis mentioned in another thread that he would like to have a “Semi Auto Key” mode.

I can think of two ways to implement this:

**Option A**

- We keep the Auto Key toggle button where it is right now.
- Auto Key On still does the same
- Auto Key Off still does the same
- We add a preference that enables the automatic creation of keyframes on channels that already have a keyframe set on them even though Auto Key is disabled.

The main challenge/drawback here would be the visual indication as we couldn’t really indicate a on/off status based on the channel selection. You could rely on the indicators at the bottom of the numeric fields and we could add a general indication such at the text of the toggle button being yellow when it is disabled but the preference is enabled.

**Option B**

- The Auto Key toggle button is transformed into a drop down button that contains 3 options: Off, On and “Semi”
- Auto Key On still does the same
- Auto Key Off still does the same
- Semi automatically creates keyframes on channels that already have a keyframe set on them but not for channels that don’t have any.

It would be easier to have a different background colours for the On and Semi mode with this option, but it could be more complicated to change the button’s status with shortcuts as a single shortcut would toggle between the three options. We could also make it so the shortcut only toggles between on and off.

What option would you prefer? Any other idea?

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**Author:** ![noahpoole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecc23a/32.png) [@noahpoole](https://forum.logik.tv/u/noahpoole)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 7:29pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954/30 "2022-04-20T19:29:49Z")

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The only time this bothers me is inheriting a setup from an autokey-on-all-the-time person, where there are single keys on non-animated channels everywhere. So the above options sound cool, but really all I would need to be happy is a button that finds all the channels with only one key and deletes it.

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**Author:** ![dcrites](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/dcrites/32/8924_2.png) [@dcrites](https://forum.logik.tv/u/dcrites)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 7:33pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954/31 "2022-04-20T19:33:10Z")

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Hi Fred,

Of the options presented here, B would be my preference

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**Author:** ![hildebrandtbernd](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/hildebrandtbernd/32/3038_2.png) [@hildebrandtbernd](https://forum.logik.tv/u/hildebrandtbernd)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954/32 "2022-04-20T19:39:06Z")

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Both sounds cool,

I personally would vote fore for A, as B doesn’t sound friendly enabling/disabling it via shortcuts.  
Having a semi in general sounds awesome and enabling/disabling via preferences is def. a good use.

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**Author:** ![GPM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/gpm/32/4224_2.png) [@GPM](https://forum.logik.tv/u/GPM)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954/33 "2022-04-20T19:43:40Z")

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Maybe I’m just lost, but I can’t see how anyone operates without toggling autokey as needed.

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**Author:** ![GPM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/gpm/32/4224_2.png) [@GPM](https://forum.logik.tv/u/GPM)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954/34 "2022-04-20T19:45:42Z")

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Yes. This is the bane of Flame. Artists who keep auto key on for no reason, creating random keyframes that mean nothing and I have to go and clean it up. Please stop this, peeps!

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**Author:** ![hBomb42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bbce88/32.png) [@hBomb42](https://forum.logik.tv/u/hBomb42)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954/35 "2022-04-20T19:54:39Z")

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Option B, please. I never thought there’d be a day when Flame got After Effects-style keyframing, but wow am I here for it!

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**Author:** ![GPM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/gpm/32/4224_2.png) [@GPM](https://forum.logik.tv/u/GPM)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954/36 "2022-04-20T20:03:15Z")

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PSA: Folks, please assign Alt-A as autokey toggle, and use it. It’s way faster and more ergonomical than whatever the stock key is (ctrl-a??)  
Toggle it when you want a keyframe. Otherwise leave it off please.

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**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 8:30pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954/37 "2022-04-20T20:30:21Z")

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Please don’t spend any time tweaking the Auto Key functionality. I’d rather have something else.

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**Author:** ![GPM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/gpm/32/4224_2.png) [@GPM](https://forum.logik.tv/u/GPM)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954/38 "2022-04-20T20:31:21Z")

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Yes please don’t touch that, and please do touch other things. Ain’t broke. Don’t fix it.

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**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 8:33pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954/39 "2022-04-20T20:33:56Z")

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There is not now, nor will there ever be a “one size fits all automagical autokey setting.” Leave it and move on. Multi-depth rgb values in the player colour picker. Concentrate on that.

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**Author:** ![andy\_dill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/andy_dill/32/15475_2.png) [@andy\_dill](https://forum.logik.tv/u/andy_dill)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 8:52pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954/40 "2022-04-20T20:52:22Z")

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So long as I can turn Auto Key on once and then never turn it off I’m happy.

Should I ever need to hand a setup to Noah or Greg Paul, all the better. 😛

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**Author:** ![GPM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/gpm/32/4224_2.png) [@GPM](https://forum.logik.tv/u/GPM)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 8:55pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954/41 "2022-04-20T20:55:20Z")

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I have to check, but I believe that Dante had a special little room for keyframe terrorists.

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**Author:** ![andy\_dill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/andy_dill/32/15475_2.png) [@andy\_dill](https://forum.logik.tv/u/andy_dill)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954/42 "2022-04-20T20:59:57Z")

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Heck yeah he does!

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**Author:** ![joelosis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/joelosis/32/72_2.png) [@joelosis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/joelosis)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 12:43am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/questions-about-your-auto-key-usage/3954/43 "2022-04-21T00:43:38Z")

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What he said, I’d rather anything than resources spent on this

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