# Sonoma vs big sur **URL:** \ **Category:** Hardware Questions\ **Tags:** mac-os\ **Created:** [March 15, 2024, 11:10am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/sonoma-vs-big-sur/10288 "2024-03-15T11:10:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![paul\_round](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/paul_round/32/389_2.png) [@paul\_round](https://forum.logik.tv/u/paul_round)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 11:10am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/sonoma-vs-big-sur/10288/1 "2024-03-15T11:10:39Z")
I have a new macbook pro coming today, which I guess will be running sonoma, I’m planning on migrating form my old one running big sur, any issues to be aware of with flame? ---
**Author:** ![johnag](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/johnag/32/573_2.png) [@johnag](https://forum.logik.tv/u/johnag)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 6:37am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/sonoma-vs-big-sur/10288/2 "2024-03-16T06:37:49Z")
Always do a fresh install. Do not migrate. ---
**Author:** ![paul\_round](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/paul_round/32/389_2.png) [@paul\_round](https://forum.logik.tv/u/paul_round)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 6:38am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/sonoma-vs-big-sur/10288/3 "2024-03-16T06:38:18Z")
Cheers John. ---
**Author:** ![art072000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/34f0e0/32.png) [@art072000](https://forum.logik.tv/u/art072000)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/sonoma-vs-big-sur/10288/4 "2024-03-21T13:04:54Z")
@paul_round …How is the experience of Flame on sonoma so far? Can you share your MBP specs too…would be helpful. Tx. ---
**Author:** ![paul\_round](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/paul_round/32/389_2.png) [@paul\_round](https://forum.logik.tv/u/paul_round)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 1:24pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/sonoma-vs-big-sur/10288/5 "2024-03-21T13:24:09Z")
So far I have not been able to use it due to a backburner error message, which I will investigate this weekend. ---
**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 1:29pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/sonoma-vs-big-sur/10288/6 "2024-03-21T13:29:05Z")
Sonoma is fine. Big Sur, OS 11, will no longer be supported on Flame 2025 based on this info… [https://www.autodesk.com/support/technical/article/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/flame-2024-sysreqs.html](https://www.autodesk.com/support/technical/article/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/flame-2024-sysreqs.html) ---
**Author:** ![paul\_round](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/paul_round/32/389_2.png) [@paul\_round](https://forum.logik.tv/u/paul_round)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2024, 2:27pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/sonoma-vs-big-sur/10288/7 "2024-03-23T14:27:01Z")
Finally got my flame working. Rendering a 4448x3096 16bit FP, coloured noise - denoise - blur, 100fr renders in 1 minute 10seconds on my 2023 macbook, (M2max, 32G ram) For comparison, 9 minutes 43 seconds on my 2015 macbook, (2.8|G core I7, 16G ram, Radeon M370X GPU) Incidentally, my linux box at work took 1 minute 15 seconds. ---
**Author:** ![PlaceYourBetts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/placeyourbetts/32/6852_2.png) [@PlaceYourBetts](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PlaceYourBetts)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2024, 11:29pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/sonoma-vs-big-sur/10288/8 "2024-03-24T23:29:14Z")
> [@paul\_round](#): > > Rendering a 4448x3096 16bit FP, coloured noise - denoise - blur, 100fr renders in 1 minute 10seconds on my 2023 macbook, (M2max, 32G ram) Would you mind doing that test again on a colour noise clip 3096x4448 (vertical) 🤔 @paul_round I am having some suspicions about the Autodesk blur node. Is the blur set to defocus or Gaussian? ---
**Author:** ![paul\_round](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/paul_round/32/389_2.png) [@paul\_round](https://forum.logik.tv/u/paul_round)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 9:38am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/sonoma-vs-big-sur/10288/9 "2024-03-25T09:38:02Z")
defocus, and just to check, you said vertical, as in for a phone? ---
**Author:** ![paul\_round](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/paul_round/32/389_2.png) [@paul\_round](https://forum.logik.tv/u/paul_round)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 10:18am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/sonoma-vs-big-sur/10288/10 "2024-03-25T10:18:19Z")
I get the same render time when the res is vertical, 3096x4448.