# Spline roto **URL:** \ **Category:** Flame Questions\ **Tags:** roto\ **Created:** [July 11, 2023, 2:04pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/spline-roto/8748 "2023-07-11T14:04:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![paul\_round](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/paul_round/32/389_2.png) [@paul\_round](https://forum.logik.tv/u/paul_round)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 2:04pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/spline-roto/8748/1 "2023-07-11T14:04:25Z")
I need to create a spline roto to recreate a telephone cable, can anyone suggest a simple way to do this? ---
**Author:** ![BrittCiampa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ec9cab/32.png) [@BrittCiampa](https://forum.logik.tv/u/BrittCiampa)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/spline-roto/8748/2 "2023-07-11T14:11:09Z")
Edit: nevermind! Are you talking about like a coiled cable coming off of a handheld receiver telephone? ---
**Author:** ![paul\_round](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/paul_round/32/389_2.png) [@paul\_round](https://forum.logik.tv/u/paul_round)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 2:18pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/spline-roto/8748/3 "2023-07-11T14:18:59Z")
Exactly, at the moment I’m using matte edge on a tracer, but obviously not the best solution as its a closed shape. It seems such a simple thing but to my knowledge has never been achievable other than in desktop paint and even thats pretty bad. ---
**Author:** ![Ton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ton/32/5542_2.png) [@Ton](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Ton)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/spline-roto/8748/4 "2023-07-11T14:49:50Z")
Not at the box but isn’t there a way to draw an open spline in action? [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/2/20947b2d5a333357440a784726992d26e67f19d9.jpeg "Open Splines and Edge Gradients") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8aLdFVYZjk) ---
**Author:** ![paul\_round](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/paul_round/32/389_2.png) [@paul\_round](https://forum.logik.tv/u/paul_round)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 2:57pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/spline-roto/8748/5 "2023-07-11T14:57:10Z")
Whoa, thats perfect. So thats been there since 2105? ---
**Author:** ![Ton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ton/32/5542_2.png) [@Ton](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Ton)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/spline-roto/8748/6 "2023-07-11T14:58:27Z")
Yup… one can even track the vertices if I’m not mistaken… could help with the cord. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![David](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@David](https://forum.logik.tv/u/David)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 3:03pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/spline-roto/8748/7 "2023-07-11T15:03:56Z")
Why not using an open spline in the tracer? A-Shift-Click to define the width with the softness, tweak the softness curve to give it more opacity? ---
**Author:** ![BrittCiampa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ec9cab/32.png) [@BrittCiampa](https://forum.logik.tv/u/BrittCiampa)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 3:08pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/spline-roto/8748/8 "2023-07-11T15:08:17Z")
1000% you can track with the open gmask. Also, you can bump up the “intensity” parameter on it to get some extra heft and less of a gradient/ more of a solid shape. ---
**Author:** ![johnag](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/johnag/32/573_2.png) [@johnag](https://forum.logik.tv/u/johnag)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 10:19pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/spline-roto/8748/9 "2023-07-11T22:19:07Z")
I would love a visual on what you guys are talking about. ---
**Author:** ![BrittCiampa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ec9cab/32.png) [@BrittCiampa](https://forum.logik.tv/u/BrittCiampa)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/spline-roto/8748/10 "2023-07-11T23:46:06Z")
I believe we’re talking about this kind of cable on this handheld phone receiver! ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/5/587b7295e95c12482dfa9b9f3fd7563686d0eddc.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![paul\_round](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/paul_round/32/389_2.png) [@paul\_round](https://forum.logik.tv/u/paul_round)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 8:38am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/spline-roto/8748/11 "2023-07-12T08:38:53Z")
Not that, it’s to replace the spaghetti of cable on the floor from a phone and answer machine. Lots of good advice here, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Mepstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/94ad74/32.png) [@Mepstein](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Mepstein)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 11:01pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/spline-roto/8748/12 "2023-07-14T23:01:47Z")
worth playing around with the gradient curve and also the Intensity slider too get the right softness along with the gradient if its thin. i find the default settings are too soft in the middle of an open spline gmask usually. Upping samples to 4 as well.