# Talkin' Timewarps **URL:** \ **Category:** Tips and Tricks\ **Created:** [August 21, 2020, 12:11am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134 "2020-08-21T00:11:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![dinotsaousis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/dinotsaousis/32/180_2.png) [@dinotsaousis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/dinotsaousis)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134/23 "2020-09-02T00:18:47Z")
I would love to see that emial reply as I have had many instances where an editor told me, “I did it in like 10 minutes.” A couple times I said then we sould ship your version. ---
**Author:** ![Clancey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee59a6/32.png) [@Clancey](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Clancey)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 4:37am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134/24 "2020-09-08T04:37:41Z")
My biggest challenge is matching “Fluid Motion” time warps from Avid for motion picture work. There seem to be a lot of handles to play with in there to minimize artifacts. I would love to see this software replicated outside of Avid. I think Autodesk could indeed do some more work on their time warp module. I also agree with adding “Fluid Morph”, a necessary evil. Personally I kind of hate the original premise. It seems to be overused as a lazy method for pulling up dialogue. ---
**Author:** ![andy\_dill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/andy_dill/32/15475_2.png) [@andy\_dill](https://forum.logik.tv/u/andy_dill)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134/25 "2020-09-08T17:43:06Z")
Here’s the FR for fluid morph: [FI-01448](https://feedback.autodesk.com/project/feedback/view.html?cap=5afe6c845cb3447ab36ccbd7f0688f84&f=%7B8FBADB72-C1B4-44AD-B55E-888E3FDC17E4%7D&uf=%7B73E971D0-EFB8-43A1-8430-825D9F5902A4%7D&a=v&t=1) vote it up if you want to see it happen sooner. I agree, they’re kind of awful, but also really impressive. I can understand why editors would use them, especially when they have to control for time. ---
**Author:** ![ALan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a87d85/32.png) [@ALan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ALan)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134/26 "2020-09-08T17:59:55Z")
And this should also be tied into improving the quality of Motion Vector Timewarps. The new Resolve one just crushes Flame. ---
**Author:** ![cnoellert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/cnoellert/32/559_2.png) [@cnoellert](https://forum.logik.tv/u/cnoellert)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134/27 "2020-09-08T18:02:30Z")
Everything crushes flame when it comes to motion estimation timewarps… ---
**Author:** ![space\_monkey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/space_monkey/32/49_2.png) [@space\_monkey](https://forum.logik.tv/u/space_monkey)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134/28 "2020-12-20T16:50:52Z")
Going to try and put some more life back in this thread, I have a nasty time warp and curious outside of flames and twixtor what do you people use that might be worth trying to run it through? ---
**Author:** ![andy\_dill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/andy_dill/32/15475_2.png) [@andy\_dill](https://forum.logik.tv/u/andy_dill)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134/29 "2020-12-20T17:23:48Z")
One gimmick I’ve used with some success is to stabilize the shot (1pt, 2pt, auto stab, camera stab, whatever) then do a whole frame timewarp and unstabilize it. The re-introduction of the camera movement can smooth over some of the time hops. ---
**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134/30 "2020-12-20T17:23:51Z")
I hear Resolve’s new Machine Learning thingy is good. ---
**Author:** ![PlaceYourBetts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/placeyourbetts/32/6852_2.png) [@PlaceYourBetts](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PlaceYourBetts)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134/31 "2020-12-20T18:18:08Z")
One option is to do the timewarp in batch but use a motion analysis node and feed that into your TimeWarp node. @space_monkey This gives your timewarp another source for its motion analysis. You can soften the motion analysis from within its node settings, often removing some of the most destructive warping effects. Not a silver bullet but a useful alternative. It has helped me on a number of stuttering beach, road and water shots. ---
**Author:** ![space\_monkey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/space_monkey/32/49_2.png) [@space\_monkey](https://forum.logik.tv/u/space_monkey)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 9:48pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134/32 "2020-12-20T21:48:18Z")
Resolve for the win, that thing blows the doors off anything flame or twixtor is doing, now I just have to buy a license since that feature isn’t in the free version. ---
**Author:** ![andymilkis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/andymilkis/32/11067_2.png) [@andymilkis](https://forum.logik.tv/u/andymilkis)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 12:36am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134/33 "2020-12-21T00:36:23Z")
Amen! ---
**Author:** ![space\_monkey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/space_monkey/32/49_2.png) [@space\_monkey](https://forum.logik.tv/u/space_monkey)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 5:53pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134/34 "2020-12-21T17:53:09Z")
Just in case anyone is curious I slowed this shot down 65% or something like that, woman bringing her coffee cup up and flame I added motion blur to smooth, twixtor was just super wobbles and resolve is amazing. ![flame.0001](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/1X/8a22d5711682dd9e1bb70caf738d11d218601bca.jpeg) ![resolve.0001](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/1X/dc52383e522881c8b9c11ac364289b849b7ecbea.jpeg) ![twix.0001](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/1X/98ae6c31094f0336ea69318641d26713c415dc3b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![andy\_dill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/andy_dill/32/15475_2.png) [@andy\_dill](https://forum.logik.tv/u/andy_dill)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134/35 "2020-12-22T18:05:18Z")
would you say Resolve’s $300 price tag is worth it, just as a timewarp “plugin”? ---
**Author:** ![TimC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/timc/32/11881_2.png) [@TimC](https://forum.logik.tv/u/TimC)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134/36 "2020-12-22T18:39:30Z")
@ALan and @randy so it the Resolve timeworn machine learning or is it based on motion vector timewarp? what’s under the hood? ---
**Author:** ![space\_monkey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/space_monkey/32/49_2.png) [@space\_monkey](https://forum.logik.tv/u/space_monkey)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134/37 "2020-12-22T18:50:43Z")
Considering Twixtor is close to $600 or something like that with a new license , it is definitely worth it from the 6 or so shots I sent through it since I purchased it and thus far have no noticeable artifacts like flame or twixtor. ---
**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134/38 "2020-12-22T19:48:14Z")
My understanding is the Resolve one is Machine Learning. ---
**Author:** ![julik](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/julik/32/173_2.png) [@julik](https://forum.logik.tv/u/julik)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 11:49am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134/39 "2020-12-23T11:49:46Z")
I would actually start from the other end > My advice to all who timewarp: If your speed isn’t divisible by 100, you will have problems. My extra advice would then be: if your timewarp is defined by speed (and not frame mapping), you will have problems. ---
**Author:** ![johnt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/johnt/32/14040_2.png) [@johnt](https://forum.logik.tv/u/johnt)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 1:20pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134/40 "2020-12-23T13:20:17Z")
I have found twixtor to be quite awful. Maybe we have an old version. Kronos in nuke isn’t bad. However I am interested in this resolve. I take it you’re all on Mac to use it? ---
**Author:** ![randy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/randy/32/6122_2.png) [@randy](https://forum.logik.tv/u/randy)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 2:13pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134/41 "2020-12-23T14:13:40Z")
Resolve runs on anything ---
**Author:** ![andy\_dill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/andy_dill/32/15475_2.png) [@andy\_dill](https://forum.logik.tv/u/andy_dill)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 5:15pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134/42 "2020-12-24T17:15:54Z")
This is the sort of machine learning I want more of. I spend a lot (lot) more time cursing the existence of timewarps than I do fretting over mattes. [Previous page](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.logik.tv/t/talkin-timewarps/134.md?page=3)