# Timebar change - feature or bug **URL:** \ **Category:** Flame Questions\ **Tags:** bfx\ **Created:** [January 18, 2024, 2:08pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/timebar-change-feature-or-bug/9835 "2024-01-18T14:08:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lightningad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/lightningad/32/2191_2.png) [@Lightningad](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Lightningad)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 2:08pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/timebar-change-feature-or-bug/9835/1 "2024-01-18T14:08:00Z")
![Screenshot 2024-01-18 at 13.59.47](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thedepartmentofexternalservices/original/2X/c/c68d6a51fee2f9452d33e73ac4ef574dc4a68b26.png) can someone explain how i can create a new timeline Bfx that has the start frame at 1? It used to always happen that way, but since the option to change start frames was added, i have been unable to get a start frame of 1. My Preferences are set to use Start Frame 1 - but all i ever seem to get is the frame number of the underlying shots timeline position. I don’rt want to know that number…i just want to have a timebar show frames from 1 to whatever. 418 to 77 as in the example attached makes it a lot more complicated to try think about animating over time. ---
**Author:** ![PhilippeJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@PhilippeJ](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PhilippeJ)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 2:31pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/timebar-change-feature-or-bug/9835/2 "2024-01-18T14:31:00Z")
Preferences Menu \> “Batch / BFX” tab \> “Batch FX” section \> “Use Media Start Frame” toggle ---
**Author:** ![Lightningad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/lightningad/32/2191_2.png) [@Lightningad](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Lightningad)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 2:33pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/timebar-change-feature-or-bug/9835/3 "2024-01-18T14:33:36Z")
that makes zero difference if if its switched on or off…at least thats the case on my mac ---
**Author:** ![PhilippeJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@PhilippeJ](https://forum.logik.tv/u/PhilippeJ)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 2:37pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/timebar-change-feature-or-bug/9835/4 "2024-01-18T14:37:34Z")
It is only used at creation. ---
**Author:** ![Lightningad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/lightningad/32/2191_2.png) [@Lightningad](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Lightningad)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 2:42pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/timebar-change-feature-or-bug/9835/5 "2024-01-18T14:42:46Z")
seems like a step backwards. It used to work perfectly until this new feaure was added. ---
**Author:** ![Sinan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/sinan/32/155_2.png) [@Sinan](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Sinan)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 5:28pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/timebar-change-feature-or-bug/9835/6 "2024-01-18T17:28:24Z")
I’m guessing this came with the metadata feature? ---
**Author:** ![ytf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/ytf/32/109_2.png) [@ytf](https://forum.logik.tv/u/ytf)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 6:32pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/timebar-change-feature-or-bug/9835/7 "2024-01-18T18:32:15Z")
I believe it was added in conjuction with the Start Frame setting getting buried in a layer of toggle. People were complaining that it was too easy to accidentally change it. ---
**Author:** ![Lightningad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/lightningad/32/2191_2.png) [@Lightningad](https://forum.logik.tv/u/Lightningad)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 7:10pm UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/timebar-change-feature-or-bug/9835/8 "2024-01-18T19:10:04Z")
And now its impossible to set right! ---
**Author:** ![johnag](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.logik.tv/johnag/32/573_2.png) [@johnag](https://forum.logik.tv/u/johnag)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 4:18am UTC](https://forum.logik.tv/t/timebar-change-feature-or-bug/9835/9 "2024-01-19T04:18:44Z")
Its set right when you create a new bfx. The pref doesnt apply to bfx’s already created