exactly, our whole studio runs with a via a single NFS mount of our server. Has been this way for more than a decade. Now because Flame is utterly fucking flawed, I have to re-work a core infrastructure, that NO other app requires, and further segregates data. They have created another Data Island, just in a different location.
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just run flame on AWS and snapshot the whole machine, easy! affordable! perfect!
.nk files are so annoying i think about these every day flawed concept they are so complex
Or my resolve database that I havent touched for months or even years at this point - Ugggg so annying!
Much rather have 2 million files making up a database,great concept 10/10
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Seriously though, which business would want to put time and effort into building an finishing app that you can already get for free from someone else?
At one stage I thought that there may be a finishing tool version of Transkoder or EasyDCP or some other kind of authoring tool made. It made a lot of sense. Yet to see anyone go there probably due to the above…
Silhouette is an awesome app. Really impressed. Syntheyes and Mocha Pro are incredible too. I’d love Boris to make some kind of finishing and authoring tool.
Considering we’re on a Flame forum though and it was the best finishing tool on the market, it would be amazing to see it to get back to having that crown. Are the resources there to achieve that though, I hope so but can’t say I am confident.
i think having competition in the finishing market would be good for wveryone involved.
Resovle is not “finishing first” and it shows, neither is baselight or any other tool - its really flame and.. mistika ?
This is a completely new topic, you can create a new topic specifically to discuss this issue. When it comes to the Finishing system, the biggest deficiency of Flame is that it currently does not integrate IMF and DCP. However, Baselight, Davinci, and Mistika all have the DCP feature.
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I agree that more choice would be good. That has been my gripe with the love for Resolve. It removes competition, doesn’t add.
Mistika is not your solution. They’re even slower than ADSK at fixing things. By some account they’re down to a single dev. And all the colorists I know who were on Mistika at some point have moved to Baselight. Only one keeps using Mistika for VR grades, which is a unique niche. Baselight is not as capable as Flame, though it’s a lot further along than it used to be. As expected, there is quite a learning curve, but the tools are comprehensive, and I’ve been enjoying the journey.
In a project earlier this week, I took a single shot that needed a more comprehensive fix into Flame, rendered it out from Batch and replaced it in the Baselight timeline. That was very straightforward.
That said, if you want to throw money around, you could probably get royal treatment at SGO. It has a lot of the components you’re looking for, but also a lot of tech debts. They’re further behind in keeping up with new camera formats and other things.
All that said, I’m still waiting for the light-bulb moment at ADSK where they more readily acknowledge that they have a serious problem. As an ex-software guy, the current situation is rather puzzling to me. While at the root a technical problem, that seems quite readily fixable with the right commitment.
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well said, i think for me it boils down to that i need a software that helps me archieve my day to day tasks that earn money, i need a tool.
The tool has not changed but the task has very much changed. If i would run the same workflows today that ive run 5 years ago i would be bancrupt right now.
Flame is still the only choice we have pretty much for what we do, but its far from ideal and imho just has not kept up with production demands.
Apart from these “fringe,” issues i am having with my setup , we still after all these years get corrupted actions on every aaf/xml import if thats not showing whats going on then idk, completely broken core functionallity for YEARS where the community had to step up and patch the software with workarounds..
and yes i feel like we can and we should complain, this is not ok, this would be ok for cheap consumer software like premiere but not for a premium product sold to professionals with professional needs.
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The comprehensive functionality of Baselight is not as rich as Flame because it does not have a node synthesis module like Fame. However, the color grading function of Baselight is far more powerful than Flame, especially with the latest Baselight 7.0, which further enhances the artificial intelligence module. After launching the MasterGrade color grading node many years ago, Flame did not vigorously develop new and stronger color grading nodes. There is also no depth optimization for MasterGrade color grading nodes, especially for the curve color grading section. So there is still a lot of room for improvement in Flame’s color grading module. As for Mistika, it is completely lagging behind, completely falling behind. The existence of Davinci and Baselight makes Mistika have almost no future prospects.
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Misitka seems to be hanging on because of one or two big clients they cater to. Might be ITV in the UK. But for your average freelancer there is not much left, maybe a smidge more than Nucoda.
However on the bigger question - more and more so I feel like a multi-app workflow is the answer. I don’t think any app will ever keep up with today’s needs. We see many people having to mix and match Flame with Comfy. Or my mixing of Flame and Baselight or Nuke.
I think you want one app which is the central assembly point and review system. Which is where Flame seems perfect. As to the individual features, more and more so, we’ll plug them with other apps. Now it will be all about interchange and making that easy.
Things like Chris just did for Comfy, and other variations of that will save the day, not any a-ha moment by ADSK or any other dev group.
Also as an artist, I think the days of ‘expert at xyz’ are over. As an artist you need to be able to app-hop quickly, and stitch things together. Which means you have to have at least a working knowledge of all the big apps. Flame, Nuke, SynthEyes, Comfy, C4D/Blender, Baselight, Resolve, Mocha, etc.
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The current module framework of Flame is very suitable for enhancing color functions. In small and medium-sized projects, it can even initially replace the color functions of Davinci and Baselight, which can be considered as a continuation and rebirth of Lustre. Of course, collaboration between Flame and Baselight Or Davinci would be better in large projects, and BLG For Flame is also a good collaboration solution. Strengthening Flame’s color grading has no harm and only benefits. I even believe that Flame can enhance its editing capabilities without affecting the collaboration between Flame and Avid.
I was excited for this back in the day, I wonder why it never saw the light of day
I wonder if the source code is still sitting there waiting to disrupt the industry
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