First and foremost, to get it out of the way, DasGrain is awesome and makes adding back in noise (who works on film these days?) such a breeze and I’d love a similar tool in Flame. Mainly because it is quick and easy. I would like to say though, that I can still get a decent result with the built-i…

[image] AdamArcher: So why do so many people use and persist with this technique? It’s very fast and requires very little thought, so I love it. As to why not just comp a regrained patch over the source plate, that’s a fair question. I certainly do that for ST maps and screen comps, but beca…

Enough likes and I’ll “MasterClass this issue”. [image] andy_dill: making a little fucking blurry-grain halo around the work area

I would like to know how to avoid this without doing grain subtraction/addition. I suspect it somehow involves Divide.

[image] andy_dill: Nothing any of us make is important enough for the grain to matter. This says it all. Unless you’re doing film(and even then…) the compression being applied to the final output of your work is going to obliterate the grain/noise.

Is this a major issue for folks? Granted, I’ve worked primarily in episodic tv for the last seven years, but the amount of times I’ve had comps kicked back for grain mismatch I can count on my fingers. And when it has happened, there were way larger problems on that show in general than just grain- …

We work exclusively in theatrical film and 4K streaming… My god you commercial/episodic people have it so fucking easy. These supervisors sit there and A/B frame by frame, and examine each R G B channel for grain. So yes, its a big deal.

That sucks. That sounds like an industry issue not a grain management issue. I’ve never watched a single frame of any moment of any film and thought, “grain seems off…”

The grain ghosting is a real thing and a problem. That said, using the original grain is an important consideration, because it will be the same grain that’s on the next shot that had no vfx done to it. The worst thing you can do is bring in 3rd party grain (e.g. cinegrain) unless you do the same th…

[image] Ryland: Unless you’re doing film(and even then…) the compression being applied to the final output of your work is going to obliterate the grain/noise. Depends on the compression algorithm used. Some actually do their own form of subtracting grain/noise, compressing then adding it bac…

Possibly. But our goal is to create a clean master. What gets compressed after we’re done is a separate story.

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