It appears to be an RTFM moment for your AE player…
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Sunday Scaries. I’ve got the Long Form back from color. HDR looks great, my trims match their SDR reference perfectly. But trying to copy/paste clips to build all my cutdowns the trims are drifting in color - not a lot, but enough to be noticed.
Re-analyze yields a different color on top of that.
Maybe we get the Dolby license? I know colorist did creative trims per shot - I can see changing values in the locked out trims.
Or any other tips?
Thanks again everyone for helping. This has been a whirlwind job. (they’ve also asked for 8k too!)
So much for four days
Seems like four weeks…
Clients
Can’t live with ‘em
Can’t trust them to tell time…
First batch supposed to deliver tomorrow. Then we go back in a re-open 8k and rerun comps so they can run this on 8k Samsung TVs. At least they have deep pockets I guess
it’s the fake urgency that’s so boring
You definitely don’t want to reanalyse. This will definitely change what they have done in grade.
If you copy and paste the trims as well as the clips you should get an identical result. Is this not the case? Just cut up your PQ layer to match the Dolby trims.
You don’t need a Dolby License unless you plan to mess with the trims.
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If I copy paste in the master LF timeline, all good. If I copy paste into my :90 timeline, the trim drifts from their SDR ref.
I can look in the copied trim and see the same locked adjustments (-cyan, +sat gain, etc…).
PQ is identical
Hmmmm. This is weird. My main LF from color PQ is set to 2084. It looks exact.
If in my :90 copy/paste I change PQ to 2100 it’s exact…
The same HDR metadata is on the same clip and it looks different? Check your PQ layer is set correctly. I’ve also seen where you need to right click on your timeline and “Set Sequence Gap Colour Space” to be correct. Is the first frame of your timeline from a P3D65PQ graded clip or do you have colour bars or something non-P3D65PQ as the first clip?
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I had a 709 on the top layer! Set gap to 2084. Added a 2084 clip to the beginning. No dice.
Copy pasted the entire :90 into the back of the LF. Now works with PQ 2084.
Feels like Flame is holding onto some color flag. These were all originally done in slog with 709 graphics.
2025.1.1 FWIW
Ok, I’m using a single clip from my LF as new sequence, and can copy paste my old conforms and HDR looks correct.
Appreciate the troubleshooting! This is a wily format
All this shit is Greek to me. I would love to delve in at some point. It just never comes up…
It’s been a trial by fire for me and my AE guy.
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it’s been a while since I’ve done one of these cutdowns in dolby vision but I’ve experienced this same issue in flame before and I believe that editing in all three tracks with overwrite/insert rather than copying the segments seemed to do the trick.
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The “HDR 2 pop” is keeping Flame in 2084, for all your copy paste needs!
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One last non workflow question. Flame in HDR Main Display. Apple XDR in st-2084. Everything looking great. Why are the Colour Source pickers, or the white matte display in Action 1000 full nits? IT HURTS
Yes, that’s insanity. Luckily I used a separate HDR display and I could look away and just use the GUI monitor. I hope there’s a preference for that somewhere. Hadn’t had a chance to look.
I always left HDR to my SDI broadcast monitor. There’s no way I would want to look at a HDR display all day!!
Still happens there though. I have HDR on my DeckLink attached broadcast monitor. But if I pull a key in Image and use F8 to visualize the matte, it will be at full intensity on the broadcast monitor. I guess in my 3-up I would have to use F8 on a window that is not the one mirrored to broadcast.
I just switch the broadcast monitor into SDR mode until I want to view HDR.
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