Linux, taking the leap, general thoughts

I run my flame on an imac today and for me its just great, access to adobe suit, davinci, everything works, great for client viewing and quick fixes.
BUT, i’ve lately been running into heavier and heavier batches as i start doing more of my heavy compositing in flame, previously i’d do it with nuke on my PC.

So, Im starting to look into the linux direction.
My thinking is at great setup would be to keep using my imac in the client suit. And have a separate machine with linux with som form of shared flame workspace setup. Where if i get heavy compositing work i could remote into the linux machine and do the compositing and rendering via the imac.

Now Im not really tech savy, no XP with linux and or what gear that would be best suited.

Curious if anyone has a similar setup and would like to share som wisdom :slight_smile:

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This has been discussed in depth on this forum. Searching for P620 will give you best hits about this. It’s the Lenovo Threadripper platform which is the best bang for buck currently.
We use the Linuxbox as our main system with Icydock (internal raid of SSDs). Secondary system is Mac which uses the same framestore over 10gig.
@Jack can help you set it up and maintain it for you.

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I took the Linux plunge at home recently. I set up Rocky Linux on an HP Z8. The setup of the OS and Flame was very easy and straightforward. I have it connected via 10gb Ethernet to. Synology NAS. I usually run it directly, but I’ve started running HP remote central on my Macbook pro to connect to the Z8 and it’s like I’m directly connected, but with the added benefit of everything Mac on the same box.

@Sinan is right. You can hire @Jack to help you set it up if you have any reservations about Linux.

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Andy –

I’m considering a Synology NAS connected to a Mac Flame over 10GbE with the goal of keeping all job assets (grades, CG EXRs, offlines, etc.) there and bringing them into Flame uncached. Would then have a small framestore for local renders connected to the Mac over Thunderbolt.

Do you work with uncached assets on your NAS and if so, how responsive is that way of working, particularly with plates UHD and larger?

Thanks!

p.s. Are you happy with Synology? I’m considering one of their Diskstations vs. a TrueNAS.

Hi Chris,

That’s exactly how I had my Mac setup. 10gbE to the synology which holds everything and an NVME drive via thunderbolt as a stone. I’m getting about 600mb/sec from the synology, and it’s a 6 bay 1621xs set to raid 5. I put two of their 400GB nvme caches in there set to read only. So if there’s something that isn’t getting smooth playback on the first attempt it will play smoothly after that since it’s cached to nvme.

So far, I’m very happy with the Synology. I’ve never really set up anything like this before, and the setup was easy, there’s tons of videos on YouTube and the Logik forum and discord are fab resources when you get stuck.

I’ll add one more thing that I leaned from @randy. I have my synology mounted on the Linux box inside of a folder called /Volumes. BOOM…now I have identical paths on Mac and Linux.

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Ooh, that’s a great tip.

Another Nas option is qnap…I’ve had a 12 bay for several years now with no issues. I did have help setting it up from a reseller though, so not sure if other options are more user friendly.

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The new 59xx series of Threadripper Pros are finally in stock at Lenovo.com.

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The threadripper platform, while being the most feature rich platform, is not the best bang for buck. Unless you need the PCIe lanes or onboard IPMI, you can get similar performance from zen3 ryzen for a lot cheaper.

Although as Randy has pointed out, latest gen threadripper pro is available so that might change the equation… (Are my eyes deceiving me? are they currently only allowing up to 5965WX?)

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Most of us would argue that the P620s are the most bang for your buck out of the autodesk certified / new /oem builds from the big 3.

But yes, if you build your own then you can do it cheaper.

And yes currently I only see up to the 5965s. Rumor has it there is a motherboard shortage globally and as they become available they’ll probably add some more options up to the 5995.

Thanks Randy! Definately looking into one of these. How is flame when it comes to single core vs multi threading, iow would you say going for fewer faster och more cores?

This i great :slight_smile: So you use both the mac and the hpz8 connected to the sam NAS. The mac has an external thunderbolt drive as stone. Does the HP also has a faster drive for cache och do you cache it local? How do you distribute your work between the mac and HP? My thinking is just using the faster linux machine for heavy batch work and moving the renders to the mac witch i’d use during client sessions.

I have an NVMe raid on the linux machine as a stone. I’m shifting all of my flame work to the HP and considering my MBP as the backup flame machine. For client sessions I just run HP Remote Connect and run the Linux box in a window on my Mac. Then I share that screen via whatever conferencing app we are using.

Andy –

Thank you for the tip about the NVMe caches, I would have probably missed that option!

The main drives in the Synology, they’re spinning disks, not SSD?

Yes. I went with WD Red drives.https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08TZT47VT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Excellent, thanks again, Andy!