Question for the braintrust before I file this as a feature request.
I’m working on a timeline with material shot on an iPhone. Footage is all MP4 files. On MacOS and in Premiere these files automatically come in as vertical.
However, when I conform the material in Flame (with timeline set to 1080x1920), all shots come in letterboxed and horizontal. They also display horizontal in the Swtich player.
After some digging, it appears there’s a ‘Rotation’ metadata flag that Premiere and MacOS interpret correctly, but Flame seems to ignore. Flame just goes by the meta data resolution of 1920x1080 and takes it at face value.
Is that a feature of modern times that Flame is missing? Happy to file a request, just sanity checking before I do.
Also unfortunately the resize TL-FX doesn’t have a rotation parameter. So the image gets scaled down to fit in it’s entirely (no overscan in timeline that I’ve found), then a 2D transform rotates and scales it backup. That’s a lossy way of dealing with it… Haven’t found anything in ‘format’ and ‘preprocess’ on timeline to handle this better.
PS: Resolve also handles this correctly. But would be nice to get this fixed in Flame. This type of footage will only be more common.
Interestingly enough, I just finished a job with lots of the latest iPhone and it all came in correctly. It was also much larger than 1080x1920. I think it was 2160x3840, but I would need to check and I’m not in front of the machine.
Good to know. I probably should have said ‘phone’, I assume it’s an iPhone, but don’t know that for certain. Could have been an Android.
If you have a moment when you’re at your system, would you mind looking at the meta data with media info to see if the rotation flag exists in that footage, and what it’s set to? Also if the encoded resolution is 1920x1080 or 1080x1920?
I take it back. The media info showed a size of 3840x2160 and a 90 degree rotation. It came in horizontally. It was the footage I got back from colour that was correct. For what it’s worth, I always use action for my timeline resizing. It’s really easy to build presets that I keep in the explorer that handle all sorts of different aspects.
@allklier please fill a General Improvement and cross reference the discussion here so we can continue to see this discussion from our improvements database.
