2026 - Type on Path

Has anyone used the new Type Tool and put their type on a Bezier path? I watched the @Jeff FLC video, and he just drags the path around as you would expect to, but when I try to grab a path vertices, it moves the whole thing, not the vertices. What am I doing wrong here?

Pretty sure it’s your font choice. It’s so bad, flame is resisting you and won’t let you do anything meaningful for fear of the shame it would bring you and your family.

Hey there @davejahns - took a peek.

My best guess is that the behavior you’re seeing is because you have a keyframe set. This is probably one of those situations where Flame is a little particular about adjusting a parameter when there’s a keyframe already set and you’re unable to adjust it again unless you turn Auto Key back on or remove that one-off keyframe set.

It looks like it’s the same behavior as when you have a keyframe set on a Bilinear / Extended Bicubic surface–it’s unmodifiable until you turn Autokey back on or delete the keyframe.

Thanks, Jeff - that’s definitely part of it, but it also is doing other very strange things, like if type is right over a vertices, I have to offset the type out of the way to grab the point. Very clunky!

When I made the video on this feature I did find that you have to be very precise selecting points in order to select them or the type would be deselected. Maybe this sounds like your feature request is to make the selection threshold for points and beziers a bit larger than it is currently.

I’m curious if there’s actually an issue with selecting these points when they overlap with text or if it’s just that they are a bit precise to select. I just tested it and found even in using the font you showed in your video that I can select the points and beziers when they are over the type itself.

thanks @Jeff the keyframing was one issue - but I’ve never had this “precision” be an issue with any of the mask/path tools before. At :30 on this video - You’ll see even when I can get the point at the end, it doesn’t move - it only rotates the handles…???

I agree that it’s sometimes challenging to select the points, and I think you have a great case to make a feature request to get the threshold for their selection a bit larger. But I also think what you’re describing is possible. Here’s a video of me doing what you’re trying to do. I struggle a little bit but it ended up fine and not taking very long.

The only other things I can think of contributing to why it’s so difficult for you is that your cursor looks quite large and you often can’t see exactly where you’re selecting, and it also looks like you’re using a pen. It’s no secret that I’m a mouse guy, so here comes my bias, but part of why I’m a mouse guy is for situations like what you’re showing. When I try to manipulate splines like this using a pen, maybe it’s the fact that I’m not using a pen day-to-day and only pull it out for painting, but I find I’m nowhere near as accurate compared to when I use a mouse. Anyways, in this video I’m using a track pad so it’s a moot point I guess.

thanks - yeah, it looks like you’re doing 50% better than I, but still struggling between moving the point and adjusting the handles. I’ll try to minimize my cursor and try with the mouse. Thanks Jeff!

Hi, I’ve used type on a path a few times on a job about 2 versions ago and don’t remember issues like this. I found something that can help manipulate the path but still causes frustration when you deselect a point.

Try adding and manipulating the path with no text in the layer first. I found that the move feature worked but still tricky to select the centre point vs the tangent. For some reason it’s only with the first and last point on the path.

There’s definitely a bug in here and worth reporting.

edit.. while typing this I was thinking how could this have slipped past QC so I loaded up the discreet font and noticed that it works a little better. I’d say it’s the font style adding to the problem.