I disagree, …its totally inaccurate and misleading just like AI
But I like the idea of spreading the word that there are only 263 Flame Artists
ITs something a politician would say… to look good, when only fewer people know its bull shit
My job title doesn’t really define me - if it did my job title would be
not quite good enough to be the colossal fuck up in chief, but the next best thing that you can afford…
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Ye but ye but for me, Im a Flame Artist first, then a Post supervisor and then CD, as I run my own jobs alone directly with the client. Flame artist 50% off my time, 25% Managing 100s of shots and delivering, and 25% giving my creative opinion or creation in Flame under my own direction from an idea I was given, to the show Sup to present to the Director. So what’s wrong with that!!
If I was just hired as a Flame Artist, at post house, with an in-house producer, and an assistant etc, then I would just say Flame Artist, if Im running the job at a post house then im a Lead Flame Artist, if was also on the shoot the Lead/Flame Artist/VFX sup…
@ALan @andy_dill are you guys saying otherwise or what do yo suggest ?
maybe should just say Flame Artist or Owner or VFX Artist?
But I must admit the example you pasted is nuts…
I am what my client wants me to be
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that would look good on Linkedin
I hate the laundry list job titles, which is why I switched to Post Finishing Artist. No brand crap, single phrase, don’t have to change if software gets rebranded or dies.
Does it explain what I do? It’s descriptive but not a standard title people are used to. So it fails or creates a conversation starter.
And it doesn’t help with surveys like this. But I’m happy to give you whichever label makes you happy. No ego lost.
Maybe pixel washer? Last exit for blemishes ?
But what does finishing mean, add titles but no comping?
Anything that you need after picture lock.
I work across color, sound, vfx, cg, gfx, and online.
Whether that’s a film maker dropping off an edit, someone giving me a list of vfx shots of their film,
color and retouch of beauty content, cg comp on footage, screen comps, etc.
Which is why I dropped the laundry list.
Post Supervisor/Doer
Sure. There is no singular answer. I’d rather have a conversation starter than a badge.
I think “Post Supervisor Artist” Is better for you
What title do you want? In that situation I’d just pick whichever one I liked (or could charge the most money for) and leave it at that.
Multi-titles make me think the person is overselling themselves, sort of saying, “yeah, i can do that too,” over and over; It doesn’t inspire confidence.
We’re all sometimes producers, sometimes creative directors, sometimes roto artists, sometimes on-set supervisors, sometimes leads, sometimes assists, but it looks best to make a call on the title versus listing all of that.
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If that is the case then Flame Artist is my favourite.
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That’s usually what I call myself, but being a pedant piece of shit, I swap “artist” for “operator” but that’s a whole other thread… haha.
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The thing is it make it difficult to say “that shot on my reel was all my idea, and the director loved it and used it”
When these days Flame Artist can mean just versioning
So maybe you gotta make it Flame Artist/CD
And …or… Flame Operators are versioners, and Flame Artist are also CD’s ?
Job titles are so pre-Covid. A visual representation of your job description is totally the way to go… maybe…
At the end of the day results matter more than titles.
Titles are for org charts, door signs, LinkedIn profiles, and email signatures. And sometimes egos.
Titles don’t comp, paint, stabilize, track or comp.
I mean, I’d argue that’s hard for a Creative Director to say too, so I don’t know if the title buys you much leverage. Haha. Lord knows most of the CDs i dealt with had exactly the same level of input on a job as I did.
One of the nice things about the Flame Op/Artist title is it’s so fucking broad and stacked with very skilled people, that it works well as a premium title.
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