Is there a way to get broadcast out routed into a video call for clients to view work properly like when they used to come into suites?
Correct. There’s that…but is there not some built into flame where we can just patch ndi out?
Alan and Finn and Chris made big contributions to the community by sharing how they get this to work.
Use the search tool to look for NDI, Ultragrid, Clearview, etc.
What Phil mentioned isn’t really applicable to commercial workflows, as in, hey 13 clients at home, here’s my Flame output. Ultragrid is the perfect scenario for point to point high-quality low-latency performance, LAN or WAN. But not. for client sessions unless they all at the theatre/where ya want them.
Options…
bad
Flame output NDI → NDI Webcam Input --? Google Hangout / Zoom
Less bad
Something something something with Blackmagic Web Presenter or ATEM or similar.
good
Flame output NDI → Louper.io → LDE (Louper Desktop Encoder) → Louper Room
best
Flame output via SDI via Blackmagic → Clearview Flex hardware encoer → Clearview Flex room
Flame output via NDI → Clearview Flex hardware encoder → Cleaview Flex room
bestest but rarely applicable for commercial purposes / client viewing
Flame output via Blackmagic →
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Yeah clear view is great but pricey.
SDI output → SDI input (BMD mini recorder) on an older MacMini → OBS → any videochat
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I use HDMI out from flame (‘broadcast’ going to a second computer monitor). An HDMI splitter (one input, two output) sends this to my second monitor and a HDMI capture device. The HDMI capture device goes back into the computer via usb and it looks like a webcam to Zoom, Teams, etc.
You can do this for about $50 if you don’t need absolute color accuracy.
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I setup my laptop monitor as the second monitor. And set it up so Flame outputs the video feed directly to this screen, so no UI on the screen. Then in Google Meet (or whatever) I just share that screen to the group. Works a treat for interactive sessions, it’s clean, responsive and not-too-bad quality acording to my producers. Pixelview was always so lagging it wasn’t helpful. It’s mostly re-racks or look setting in these live sessions anyway.
Next to that I always have the latest WIP on hand in a Sync Sketch session, so if we need to look at high-quality version of the edit in sync with each other we can. Sync Sketch downloads the video file to each participants machine and synchronizes the playhead. So anyone can scrub the playhead and we all look at the same frame, can make notes, laser point to parts of the image etc.
Actually often I take the clients throug the latest WIPs on SyncSketch first, then when we get into noodling things I start sharing the Flame feed. Works well for me.
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Thanks for all the sugggestions.
shameless plug
i made this thing, you can send NDI via OBS to WHIP and get like 300ms glas-to-glas latency at pretty decent quality or run SRT for a more advanced stream with a tad more latency, you can sign up for the beta.(free) its a videochat with integrated livestream straight from flame, at decent bitrates.
as many others its like videocall here, syncsketch there, frameIO here e.t.c i am trying to unite the best of what we need and make it into modular “rooms”
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