Flame 2025

Don’t forget Text & Paint…

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I’m surprised you are still maintaining desktop paint.

Or the tools menu… or reels.

I enjoyed and remember the Resolve release that touted the “camcorder overlay” as an exciting new feature!

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Morning, I wanted to solve this myself but if hit a road block. How do i get all my user bins and shortcuts into 2025. I opened Flame Setup selected 2024.2 and under the user tab hit Export. Then i selected 2025 and selected import then apply but no setups are in my 2025 software. I must be doing something wrong and i cannot find help online. Anyone shed some light please? Thank you.

thanks Fred - how come this isn’t readily available when you go to the downloads page??

and look at them now - tons of amazing new features and Flame announces a grain and lens tool! how the tables have turned!!! haha - just kidding!

This is reasonably untrue. Take AI out of the equation for now. Flimlight have announced some huge updates. Adobe and Frame IO have huge updates. Boris FX have rolled synth eyes into mocha pro. all big stuff.

Is there a NAB Adsk Flame reel this year?, …love the Resolves reel.

Actually there is a lot of stuff in there. I take it all back. looks bad on the initial announcement but under the hood there is a lot of good stuff. thanks flame people.

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I have loaded my user bin within the batch but i’m at a loss on how to get my keyboard short cuts to load from a previous version. Is anyone else having an issue with this.

For once, I agree with you Alan.

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Seriously!!!

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The website doesn’t always make it easy, but the ‘What’s New’ link was right at the top of the announcement here on Logik, when the news first dropped:

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Yes, that’s point. So far that is still true. But if Resolve marches on like that, it may no longer in a few years time as everyone defects to the free tool that has all these amazing news of shiny feature. Companies that need to charge for their software need a certain amount of users to make the math work. If everyone prefers the free candy from the mining company, they go away.

And as many of Resolve’s features were actually developed by others first. Once we get to this point, there maybe fewer shiny things as they have no one left to copy from.

Most of the features they added have existed elsewhere first. Resolve tends to refine the user interface to them, but have rarely come up with actual core features of their own. Colorwarper goes back to LUT Creator Tool and others. Bin Locking and text based editing long existed in Avid, AI captions have existed in SpectraLayers before, Fairlight finally adds proper side-chaining which as existing in ProTools and Nuendo literally for decades, Texture Control has been in Baselight forever. Color Slice looks familiar to many, so do multi-band color controls. I think depth & normals maps, now part of Resolve’s fancy relight tool actually were in Flame before they were in Resolve. They literally may have watched Grant’s video and said - hey, look at that, lets copy it (showed up in Flame at 2020.2, showed up in Resolve in 18.5 in April of 2023). You get the theme…

Resolve is nothing but a fancy UI aggregator of your favorite industry features. And predatory as such, since they give you the feature for free that everyone else has to charge for.

Flame - $4,500 annual
Nuke - $5,600 annual
Adobe CC - $650 annual
BorisFX Suite - $1,400 annual
Protools/Avid MC = $600 annual each
Mistika Boutique - $1,200 annual, Ultima turnkey only
Nuendo - $1,000 perpetual with $300 upgrades every 18 months
Baselkight - turnkey system only

Resolve - $300 perpetual, free upgrades, and most can even skip the $300

So all in the first list innovate with new features and charge their customers. The outlier copies everyone and gives it away as free candy, and everyone drools.

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Love these updates. ST maps, Lens distortion and Grain tools were lagging behind. I get frustrated when new features are added whilst overlooking some obvious holes in the existing pipeline. These updates show a commitment to keeping Flame competitive as a batch compositing tool, whereas previous updates have seemed to be more focussed on doing quick colour grades in the timeline.

Some kind of AI generative fill tool seems like an obvious hole though in the year 2024.

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well well. unfortunately thats not where I saw it. As I said in the post - I found the update in the downloads page.

I find this hard to believe. Are you really suggesting that they nick features from other software and give it away for free! They would have their arses sued if they stole code or even feature sets.

And also so what if Resolve is late to the party with features and other people have done this stuff earlier. Let’s not forget Discreet stole a lot of its ideas from Quantel in the first place, reels, gestural control, filters , tools etc etc! Lens Distortion tools have been in Nuke for years as has grain matching. Apart from the glory days of Discreet I can’t think of any new feature in flame that wasn’t playing catch up either to Nuke or something else.

But anyhow none of this matters - all these software products are good and have their uses. the more the merrier. and the lo cost, many units business model has been round for a long time and does seem to work.

My only wish is that we saw more new stuff from Flame updates, as its by far the nicest piece of software to use!

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Everyone is free to draw their own conclusions. You may disagree.

Yes, people get inspired by others. As long as it remains in balance. When everyone contributes ideas and innovation the tide rises.

The feature copying is entertaining and not the main concern. The business model and cost is.