Yup runs very nicely and doesnāt have to page to disc unless things get complicated and then itās not bogged down. Iām not sure how memory is apportioned but itās still going to be miles better than the MacBookClassic with discrete RAM as that never got above 8GB, and so this would be almost like having a 24GB RAM, kind of? Yeah would have loved the 64GB. but Iāve seen some nice tests that show that the 34GB is hardly a joke in comparison. Am feeling at home with my inner impatience in not waiting for the 64GB, but thereās no turning back.
Relatedly, thereās concern about the GPU being hardwired into the same space as the CPU and so both we wedded and welded together, as per Wiliamās point. Itās the price or cost of doing such great business? You get super fast connections between RAM+CPU+GPU+Encoders/Decoders and whatever else the āwedā into that space to cohabit in super cosy proximity: No bus catching.
The 2013MacPro was anger inducing in calling it āProā but not giving you very much access to any innards and the connection to outside world hardly being super-adept, but I kind of donāt feel the same about some M.* incarnation as the time has come with this knocking of walls into unified spaces of super fast comms. Iāve seen signals of them wafering together to create super fast communicating multiple-SOCs but maybe thereāll be swapping out from the motherboard and you swap out everything, and not just the CPU component? Maybe something like that will make the Pro, or simply an inner-tower block of sh*tloads of larger SOCās with more cooling than you could house in the MacBookPro? In any event, things look great for the upcoming MacBookPros when things looked rather depressing not too far backā¦
So, anecdotally, based on what people are whispering, a Macbook Pro M1 Mac Pro with whatever RAM and whatever storage yields approximately the following on the Flame Benchmarkā¦
2021 Macbook Pro Max Pro M1 approx 14-16 minutes
For reference, other hardware is as follows, roughlyā¦
2015 iMacs approx 35-45 minutes
2017 iMac Pros approx 16-18 minutes
2013 Mac Pro trashcans around 40 minutes
HP z840 approx 8-14 minutes
2019 Mac Pros approx 12-15 minutes
Threadripper Pros 3975wx under 6 minutes
2018 Macbook Pros approx 42 minutes
Impressive improvement over Intel, impressive for a laptop, approx equiv to an almost end of life HP z840 running a P6000 ish.
was about to purchase an imac 27in 2020 i9 to replace an old macpro 6.1 12 core trashcan a few days ago, but decided to check about M1 hardware support. After reading through all of these since yesterday now Im torn whether to purchase a Macbook Pro M1 Max 64gb or stil go with the 27in iMac 2020 i9ā¦
Am I correct to assume that its better to go with the Macbook Pro Max? Its cheaper and also based on the thread looks to be a better performer compared to the iMac? Or am I missing something here? Appreciate your inputs on this
Saw a video that Apple will likely release an Imac Pro with 12 cores, mostly performance ones and possibly double the GPU core count of the laptop M1 Max. Also possibly 128GB ram, so we shall see in the coming months what they are up to
Yes thatās right, we should see in April the announcement of some powerful revamped iMac Pro!
But regarding the shipping and delay situation, I expect that if people want to buy a high end, full max specs one, they will have to wait for weeks even months just like me right now with my M1 Max :ā(
If you need it now then I would go with the m1 maxed out laptop not the iMac. From what Iāve read the m1 laptops are as fast as my 64gig/128 10 core iMacPro.
I think the next gen imacpro will be worth waiting for and if rumours are correct will be faster than the laptops
Seeing what the M1ProMax is capable of, Iād be very cautious about buying an existing Intel and even the latest iteration of the intel Alderlake chip (not in any Apple product) that seems to be fighting back in its speed, is ramping up the Watts. Itās really a certainty that the M1 (M2?) is going to migrate to the bigger beasts and one can only imagine what that is going to do where there is more space to play with. 128 Graphics cores instead of 32? 40 CPU cores instead of 10? Wowza in an iMacPro. Wowza at the thought, and then comes the MacPro. Maybe they stick with updated Intel, but itās very unlikely and so that might go down some crazy route and blow everything out of the water?
If I were not wanting to buy the existing laptop (but itās a workstation that you can transport and then plug into a bigger system with the lid shut!) beast, Iād certainly not buy any existing Intel system, unless it was seriously cheap in some kind of deal. Iād either buy the laptop, or wait until the iMacPro M-Whatever and then hold off for a little while yet on the wastebin and wonder at the speed increase come whenever this year when you see how far apart they are. You wonāt have anything near that experience going to the existing iMacProIntel, so why piss your future self off when it comes to that time. Be friends with your future self and either wait until the big iMacPro MWhatever beat comes out or get that lovely MacBookProM1ProMax now. Iām tres happy, but I wanted a laptop anyway, and got a workstation into the bargain.
Then thereās the hoped for update of Flame to go native. If it is correct that Rosetta shaves 15-20% off the speed and itās already this good, then not buying Intel gets you a serious update when it does go native, which hopefully will not be in a distant future but a close-ish one. As it is it doesnāt feel in any way at all emulated, and so the non-emulated silicon will be even more of a beast and be another knock to any investment made down the Intel route.
Cheers
Tony
thanks for continuing the Flame Benchmark and the hosting of the archive file.
On my initial page https://www.toodee.de/?page_id=579 I never shared a link for the test results, because I was afraid that it ends up with spam over time.
Is there a place here on logik that I could link to?
I recently got a M1-MAX MBP and I am running Flame for tests on it. I thought about revamping the test, but then again its complicated to keep track of the changes and makes the benchmark less easy to compare.
I see that you the benchmark is called Flame 2020 4K? Is the whole sequence now changed to 4k? Is this the latest version of the benchmark?
I would like to write a litte update on my website at some point and then also host again the most recent version of the test.
I read that Linux doesnāt take advantage of all the things intel did in this new chip which is why it performs best on windows 11. Even the windows 10 scheduler canāt fully benefit from this chip either. I think the AMD ryzen 5950X still outperforms on linux vs. intel 12900K, but would love to see actual benchmark.
Hello all
Has anyone tested flame ( or other softwares )on M1 chip ( Mac mini or iMac )?
Iām wondering how they behave for editing and light compositing.
Thanks!
Yup. Rumor has it several artists here enjoy their M1 purchases, with benchmarks showing that M1 Max performance on the MacBook Pros are close to 2019 Mac Pros and z840s with P6000s.
Linux likely still outperforms in heavy GPU tasks and machine Learning tasks, but M1 seems like a great value.
Hello, thanks everyone for yours feedbacks about the last Mac book pro.
Iām considering buying one, with M1max, do you think 64g of ram worth it or not ?
Is the flame really demanding in term of Ram ?
Thanks
Hi, welcome here More RAM is always nice to have, especially if you consider it long term.
Plus, between the 32 and 64gigs, thereās only a difference of 500 euros, I find it negligible.
The only downside at the moment is the waiting time. Youāll probably only receive your mac in end of April currently.
