Sub Titles

just had my first foray into subtitles on Flame. Is this still in beta or something? seems very buggy. I load a SRT file from the client. go to the first one - make some changes and it doesnt always go across all of the subs in that l changed the size - only this one changed - even though I have all tracks selected. Also If I change the y offset - not only does it not transfer across all of them - but it zeros out - so you have no idea what the offset is if you needed to do it manually. The kerning is still terrible - just like in the text app. If I reboot flame after loading the SRT file then it seems to work across all subs, not everytime though.

I used it once. Now I convert the srt to xml and use a regular text layer.

Not in front of it - there is a dropdown that determines if your change is only for the a single title or the entire trick. Which is what you want. You want to be able to make global changes, and override individual ones.

Isn’t there a learning channel video when this was launched? Maybe worth a watch…

Not in beta anymore. Though the text render quality is a known limitation.

I’ve used it on a few projects and had no issues.

Text quality was my major issue. All I needed on last-looks before shipping was some art director wondering why they looked so bad, then I would need to start from scratch anyway.

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Bear in mind, I’m short form, so at most I have about 10 titles in a 30 second spot. The average seems to be about 6, so manually going through each one to refine isn’t a big deal.

No, sadly that video was skipped. I have asked around about retroactively making a video on this subject for this very reason so maybe one day!

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like I said in my post - im using the dropdown entire track. which is why I think there is a problem

Edge quality still too aliased. Run the xml or srt through Premier and send a flat QT to Flame. We have a client who obsesses over their subtitles.

I generally do my timeline titles as a BFX (I keep a template in my node bin) at double the final size, then reduce by 50% with EWA filtering. Even thin fonts look fine and the extra work is still much less than having to bounce between applications for revisions.

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its such a shame that text in flame is so bad. I mean shockingly bad. and has been as long as I can remember. im going to have to do these subtitles in resolve!

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Premiere also has very decent subtitle tools. Actually most robust of all of them at the moment, including when you need to embed subtitles.

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We (where I am) do all our subs in Premiere and export as a keyable. This is more for a divide and conquer workflow over other reasons.

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