Anyone using the new Wacom Intuos 2025 tablet?

it also slides all over the place on the desk. im actually thinking of going back to the older model

Almost a year ago I switched from Wacom to Xence and haven’t looked back. Solid tablet, solid 3 button pen, optional and detachable express buttons. Good driver support.

Works with Flame on Linux and Mac.

Reasonably priced. I had countless Wacoms over the years and started taking issue with how they felt entitled to be industry leaders, and didn’t do much good product development and their software got worse.

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@allklier Have you tried the Xence tablet with Teradici accessing a Linux flame?

No, don’t have Teradici anymore. I know there was an issue with Parsec and Windows a while ago, but think that was fixed.

Interesting. I agree regarding where Wacom is these days. The pen nib doesn’t feel as precise as they once were. It has an annoying loose feeling. They wear out 3x as fast as the older pens. I had an email thread w/Wacom going a few years ago about this, specifically how fast the nibs wore down. They responded with our “users feel that the nib wearing down reminds them more of an actual graphite pencil.”

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Yeah that is some nice bull.

It was the same when they came out with the Intuos Pro with the ‘paper surface’. Pretending to be a rougher surface that reminded users of writing on paper. Except after 3 months you ended up with a lot very smooth surface. Total design fail.

My biggest issue with their pens are two fold: the rocker switch is very soft. Sometimes it’s hard to tell if you clicked it or not. Feels flimsy. Also with just two buttons, you are limited in some apps. Sometimes I need a middle click, and because of my screen size double clicks were hit or miss, so nice to have a double click button.

And if I remember right their software didn’t consider space a modifier, which is rough with Flame.

Xence handles this better. You actually get two pens - a slim 2 button pen, and a regular three button pen. And the buttons have positive click, and different surfaces so you can tell the middle one by feel without looking. Also space is allowed as a modifier.

And the express buttons are a separate unit. So I can keep them other side of the keyboard, and I actually programmed all the clicks onto express buttons. So I can do right mouse click with left hand on express button and right hand on pen without pushing any pen buttons at all if I don’t want to. Improves precision - invariably when pushing a button you end up moving the pen slightly.

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I very well may get this tablet, as I do a lot of paint work and have not been satisfied with the current Wacom product.

The very same company that made a “paper” texture for their tablets, that felt so bad the only analogue I have is using a pencil on a chalkboard.

I mean, I feel for them, they nailed the tech 20 years ago and outside of screens going form 4x3 to 16x9 there is functionally zero reason why anyone would need a new tablet. When I recycled my Intuos 2 the only “issue” with it is I could not get a driver for it on a modern OS.

I hate that they keep changing things. I had to buy an Intuos 6 because the 5 didn’t work anymore with a company’s remote software. It’s fine, but yeah, those nibs burn out fast (for zero tactile difference according to this twenty five year veteran of Wacom tablets).

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That’s a deep seated issue in our corporate culture. A huge distaste for steady plateaus. Whether that’s product, or career path, or finances. If your charts aren’t going in the upper right corner, you’re a failure.

Never mind that some job functions and some workers benefit from stability and keeping things as they are.

Grey Poupon has been the same since 1777. Can you imagine if they had to update that formula every ~5 years just to show progress?

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