I’d argue that in terms of monetization of this technology (paid user base coupled with time on device enabling maximum data rendition for sales to third parties) necessitates a text box with a red button that says go. The goal isn’t to provide a helpful service in this new attention economy, it’s to capture minutes of your life so they can be plopped in the big data hopper. And that means everyone needs to use it. Not because everyone needs it, but because it needs everyone to make money.
@BrittCiampa - yep
I suppose cracking roto would be the holy grail. Maybe this will be it ?
I don’t really disagree with any of that. I guess my main point of contention is with the idea that reading Proust is more helpful than learning ComfyUI and that txt2img is the only way forward.
This may be a finer point of distinction than is worth making, but images aren’t actually language. Images are images and language is language and the thread between them is that they’re both systems of signs with common signifieds. Humans translate between these two systems through the bridge of signifieds. AI doesn’t use signifieds in the traditional sense. It moves between two signifiers through latent representations. While superficially these may appear to be very similar pathways, they are fundamentally different.
Understanding how your signifiers are likely to be translated into latent representations is going to improve the quality of your prompts more than being generally erudite.
Leaving ComyUI aside for the moment, if you really thinking that single-prompt generation is the future then you’d be far better served by practicing drawing than you would by reading more books.
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Ummm, I may need one of these.
Babel Fish - The Oddest Thing In The Universe
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Dig! I hear you here (although what you’re saying is from a very specific viewpoint regarding semiotics that we don’t need to rabbit hole, but if we ever grab a drink- I’m super down LOl). I’ll add that I mainly think learning comfyUI is a waste of time because adobe and google are on the hunt and they’re obviously going to win. Might as well just wait for their buttons. But I could be wrong!
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Nick Clegg: Artists’ demands over copyright are unworkable
some clever wag should send this clown’s manuscript to chatgpt.
heck, if hs track record is anything to go by this clown’s manuscript was from chatgpt.
we have names for humans like this.
I am not going to say I understand the discussion completely (too much semiotics and media theory for me), but I want to add that images while not language have a story-telling structure to them, especially in our medium of film. There is the book called “Grammar of film language” which AI has to understand in order to tell meaningful stories.
I’d so like to join you for drinks or button-pushing.
Hello!
From my point of view, AI is a great tool that pushes us to reinvent ourselves and why not learn some new tools if the need arises.
I work with a lot of agencies, production companies, and post-production houses.
If we move toward the utopia where AI replaces us, then it’s clear none of the people I just mentioned would still be around.
Clients come to us because they want someone who takes care of the image, someone who can reassure them, someone who knows how to tell if an idea is good or even bring new ones. An expert.
And all those people don’t want to lose their jobs either.
AI has no soul it works because social media created algorithms that hack into people’s brains.
Personally, I don’t see any beauty in it, just a tool to help make beautiful things.
It will allow people with no budget to make low-cost ads.
But they’ll still dream of making a real one, with real people, to live the full experience.
I do agree that, in the long run, jobs might decrease because of this but there will always be some left.
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I believe
AI films will not replace Live action it will just be a new category of films. AI tools will be a new set of tools we can use for Live action, where the labourious work we dont like doing or farm out will get automated. End of.
has anyone tried this Replit AI – Turn natural language into apps and websites
you can asked it to write a python script for flame, … not quite figured it out yet but maybe worth making a tutorial?
Semi-related first hand experience on how life with AI is.
After having a well documented somewhat critical view of AI, I had just stared warming up to the performance of Claude after some time saving and well done experiences.
Yet, yesterday I had a long chat with Claude, which at the surface delivered good results, and in fact I initially missed its hallucination until someone prompted me to double check. Sure enough it had substantial math errors. I went back and forth with it at least 6 times, during which every time it acknowledged the error in polite language, promised to do better, only to screw it up again differently.
At the end I gave up, it apologized. I asked it for a refund, and it sympathized with me, but said as an AI agent it couldn’t authorize refunds. So we left it at that.
So I’m back to picking up the data points from its answer that were helpful and doing the result manually.
And no, this is not a joke.
We’re 2+ years into this endeavor. While AI has showed some impressive results, it has also demonstrated that it’s not a replacement for human thinking for quite a while.
It certainly gives the appearance, and less careful users may be tricked. But it remains an eager but unreliable entry level employee for the time being, who will not be promoted at review time. Management will be disappointed and forced to regroup.
Given that Flame artists generally work in a high impact / high stakes environment, we will see a few car crashes in slow-mo, but we will live to work another day.
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“Ok, Veo3. Please make a video of a human counting to ten out loud.”
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So much for that, LOL.
The people hoping to save money with AI are probably as bad at counting, so it all fits.
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hahahaha
it’s an ex-x
Not sure if it got deleted or what. They left out 5 in the second prompt, but it didn’t make much difference.
It’s still online here:
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