Steps to Use a Scope in Flame (there are way too many)

  1. press alt-2 for 2-up view
  2. change the left monitor to the “monitor” monitor
  3. set the right monitor to “scopes”
  4. find the node you were on in the left monitor, because it was lost in the panel change and also isn’t quite selected so Space-F won’t get you back there. this seems to happen because 2-up and 1-up have different views of the schematic and will remember where they were the last time you were in that configuration.

Am I doing something wrong? Each step in this process feels actively backwards, from having to set the left (aka center) monitor so that I can call up the scopes on the right one, to the node graph view getting completely lost. It’s a mess. I just want the vector scope for a few minutes.

I love them scopes, but toggling them on and off should be a one-button affair. Hit the button, flame does the above steps for me.

^^^^ This!!!

Make it similar to the color sampler. Shoot-combine it with the sampler, floating window and all.

Yes please!

It seems to be highly variable depending on how many monitors you have and if you’re in effects / batch / etc.

In Effects, I can take any viewer and just hit the Scopes icon and it works. If you do have two monitors, there’s an option in the Flame menu to display scopes on the second monitor.

But I agree. Everytime I need the Flame scopes, it’s a chase of how to show them. For the most part I use external scopes (OmniScopes) which are more versatile. But that’s too much setup for an occasional need.

Using Layouts can cut most of these steps. I don’t remember the last time I manually switched from 1-up to 2-up.

It’s the 2 up view that does the bug. It’s really annoying.

I’ve also been getting one in a 2 up view where the right hand one loses the viewing luts. Workaround use 3 up.

Yup 100% agree. Hit the scopes button and a scopes separate window pops up at the side would be perfect.

Stupid question from two years in the future: what are layouts?

Andy! Hello!

I think they’re more heavily used in the Flame grading world because they allow you to save & load the state of your Effects environment viewing setup. In writing this I found that they also work in Batch so that’s pretty cool too. I can really only speak to the grading saved states but I have one that quickly set me up in a 3-up view with the storyboard on the left, result view in the center, and my favorite scopes setup on the right. This is useful because I don’t want to have to manually set it when I want to do some grading vs when I just want to adjust an action node in the timeline when I’m tweaking a conform for example.

It’s this “hiding in plain sight” Layouts button here

Get your viewports set up like you want. 1-up, 2-up etc. and what they are showing - schematic, front, result, scopes, etc. Then hit Layout and “Add Custom Layout”.

I use three of these for most of the work I’m doing. You can also hotkey them.

You can also assign keyboard shortcuts to each layout to speed switch up.