Curious
What prevents upgrades to the latest versions?
Someone else?
Susperstition?
Legacy workflows?
Curious but not to the point where it might stop my own explorations.
I have 2 reasons:
I need to wait until a lull. I won’t update in the middle of big jobs.
I need to have my engineer (he’s freelance) available at the same time as my lull.
We went almost a year without having those 2 things overlap once.
Everyone wants to be 2nd in line to try something new.
Yeah, second mouse gets the cheese.
Fortune favors the bold.
An involved pipeline and an over worked IT team.
Worried that it might break something unforeseen (better the devil you know than the devil you don’t)
I can accomplish almost everything I need to do with about 8 nodes that I use every day… juice and squeeze, ya know?
I’m usually like: Stuff it, I’m going to upgrade. Can’t say it has ever burnt me badly and quite often there is a good reason to upgrade. For instance, we needed the new metadata tools in 2027 to deliver what we needed so we upgraded.
There has been a couple of times where I have had to roll back for whatever reason. 2026 we were having issues with network mounts so we rolled back to 2025. The thing is, the roll back was fairly easy. I usually think the benefits outweigh the negatives.
I’ve been back on the tools a bit lately and am loving a lot of things about 2027.0.1. Will likely go to 2027.1 next week. If I had more time I’d go back on beta and use it in production in the latter stages. That’s where you’d find the bugs.
every version after 2025.2 has had major workflow, rendering, stability, performance bugs.
For instance, 2027.1 is 13% slower in rendering our Batches.
One impediment is that if you upgrade a project to the latest version, you can’t go back. So you roll the dice on the upgrade.
If there were a workable rollback plan, the risk would be more acceptable. Understood that you’d loose new features but not all work since upgrade.
And rolling back DKUs is also non-trivial.
So it’s best to wait for a break in projects which sometimes can be months.
Of course you also hear lots of horror stories and few success stories because of the natural ambulance chasing nature of all online forums. Logik is better than average but not fault free.
And in that vein - I’ve upgraded to 2027.1, and previously other versions within weeks of release, and don’t recall any recent issues. There’s the occasional license daemon errors, but they’re a different matter. Any nuisance that has come up was resolvable within acceptable time.
I did have a major meltdown 2 weeks ago, where Flame would crash on every single ML node immediately. Ended up tearing the system apart and re-installing without it fixing it. After 18 hours of chasing with the help of the devs we found the root cause - if your Flame app acquires real-time scheduling in Linux due to audio routing, and an ML function has an uninterrupted CPU burst of more than 200ms, Linux will kill Flame on the spot, no question asked. There’s currently a work around through some Linux configuration settings you need to change. And there may be a fix for it coming. It’s an accepted defect. But it’s also a corner case.
If I had been on a hard deadline that day, it would have been quite painful.
never mid job - but then as soon as possible
You know my answer Phil! 
Didn’t those clowns get fired or exposed for fraud or replaced by ai or Texas instrument brooms, mops and buckets?
No guts. no glory. On the latest beta all the time 
I archive all my jobs before upgrading so I can roll back to the last version at anytime.
I definitely have the gut but the glory is somewhat elusive…
Great question. In my experience, from the upgraders pov: I can’t remember the last time a Flame artist actually asked for a new version. So I just upgrade when there’s a fix, speed / reliability improvement, or a new camera codec that needs to be read etc…
I think most of us that have been around a while have a fear of Flame upgrades branded into our soul. I’m happy to say I finally got past that… I think.
My update fear is slightly less than my fall behind and get crushed by my competitors fear.
You fall behind and can’t be part of the logik discussions about all the fun new tools. Or awful new changes.