Flame Micro Freezes - What do people experiencing it have in common?

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I find they get longer as the project grows.

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This is a huge part of the MicroFreezes. S+W is very old and inefficient. Auto-Saves, BatchGroup saves, Project Saves… they all take a long time on bigger projects. I will be sharing our mitigation strategy in a few weeks.

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So is there any consensus on at least how to mitigate these damn micro freezes? New project? Everything was fine and now it’s suddenly killing me. Project has a total of 2 batches in it. This is nearly unbearable to work with. And I can’t upgrade till project is finished. Madness.

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From what I’ve read, make sure you are on RockyLinux and the latest flame version. Also, mitigation steps to reduce S+W database load which I’ve gone over in other videos and threads.

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I think you might have something else going on. This doesn’t sound like typical MF behavior.

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It’s the exact MF behavior (“MF” works on two levels here) that I’ve seen on multiple boxes and versions. I’m on a brand new box that’s had zero issues, and no micro freezes, until just this small project. A restart helps for just a little while.

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Branding new machine, 2023.0.1 on rocky linux, and no micro freezes.

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Which is why I say it doesn’t sound like the same issue. For me, (and others, it seems) they are always there on every project and start by being irritating and progress to “fuck you, you piece of shit machine” as a project grows.

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It basically started happening when one of my 2 batches got quite large. Exact same symptoms of MF.

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It’s a virus created by Apple to force us all onto macs!

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Quick update on this from my two-flame company.

We were so beaten up by linux micro-freezes (and Teradici on linux) we switched to Mac. After a month of using Mac Studio machines I can say we do not experience anything like the linux micro freezes. UI interaction is snappy.

The con-side of using Mac seems to be two things:

  1. 8k mega batches are not an option. It cannot handle huge comps. This is fine for us, for now, for the kind of work we do.
  2. ML_Timewarp is crazy slow but it still pumps out results that are worth the wait.
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That’s a damn shame. :frowning:

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Also, as far as I know, there are not networking solutions faster than 10gigE for Mac.

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I did exactly the same for the same reason. I’m fine with being a little slower as long as it stops me pulling my hair out…

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ATTO FastFrame NICs can get you faster than 10GbE on a Mac. You can definitely do 25/50 GbE and they may even have an 100GbE option too now.

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Cool…I didn’t know that.

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I have not found micro freezing on Linux but we are still rocking Flame 2020.3.1. Still yet to update.

But I have found that the Auto save and workspace backups to be much more slow/frustrating on our Macs than our Linux boxes.

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I’m still getting these, Linux 2023.3.

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Supposedly minimized with 2024.0.2.

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Hmmm…