@randy you should make a second banner… Fuchsia!
Thanks for the info!!
We’d be putting in a render farm regardless of what platform we choose. Though Burn is the only choice for Flame.
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Nuke actually renders fast than Flame for many things if you use the Render Server function. Basically, when Flame sits there calculating crap on a single core, Nuke splits up the frames and renders on every core. I’ve seen some shit render 4-5x faster in Nuke than similar operation in Flame. And forget about MotionVector tracking high res stuff in Flame, it is broken.
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True. I am used to Nuke scripts being way bigger than the ones I have seen in Flame. I feel I can task Nuke with big shots with hundreds or even thousands of layers and be confortable about it, with the possibility of rendering the entire thing procedurally. So in my mind per frame render times are longer, but I guess only because usually scripts are more complex. I don’t have enough experience with Flame to have a solid opinion in that respect but I have the feeling things will get sticky faster.
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Funfact. It looks like the banner is tagged as an ad. By using ublock I literally have never seen it xD Or is it because of darkmode?
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It doesn’t show up on my desktop browser either. Maybe it’s just on mobile?
Same here. I use Brave as my browser, no ads/banners, etc. Also keeps all the ads out of YouTube 
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I try not to use Adblock wherever possible because I want to support the websites I use, but the big red banner is pretty jarring. I realize, though, that this is really a meta convo about the direciton Logik is taking. I totally get and understand the need for Pro, esp as others have stated WRT junior artists and expanding our talent pool. However, I will say that as a senior type it doesn’t offer that much appeal to me over the community exchange that’s already happening here. As such, I was pretty bummed to see Finn’s car replacement thread get yoinked behind the paywall, but such is life I guess.
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Huh? I’m confused. No car thread got yoinked behind a paywall. Can you please be more specific with your concern?
I think @hBomb42 is not referring to the thread but the class and content (which seemed to be in response to getting so much curious response on the initial thread) being part of the Logik Academy Pro. This is one that I would gladly pay for a la carte.
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I was following Finn’s CG car replacement thread here with excitement, as we’ve recently done a job sort of like this but had to figure out a lot along the way, and I was curious to peek behind someone else’s curtain:
https://forum.logik.tv/t/car-cg-replacement-best-practices/7782/14
and then suddenly this showed up:
https://forum.logik.tv/t/logik-academy-pro-calendar-updates/7408/40
I guess the question is “would Finn have gone into as much detail and done the work creating videos etc if not for Pro,” and the answer to that is…maybe?
https://forum.logik.tv/t/car-cg-replacement-best-practices/7782/17
Dude is amazing and it’s gonna be fantastic content. I’m happy to see him get paid for it and you guys are great for doing that, but I’m also bummed to miss out on account of not being a Pro subscriber.
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and yeah thanks @BrittCiampa I meant the stuff that’s hopefully coming still from that discussion, not the thread itself.
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I would also definitely pay á la carte for that presentation.
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I’m sorry that you are feeling bummed but there is a very easy way to rectify that. . .
Would you pay $89.00 for it? That is the cost of a one-month subscription to Pro. You’d also get Finn’s amazing color classes and other stuff for those ninety bucks. Really, it’s not that much to ask and you can cancel it anytime if you’d like.
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I have enough subscriptions in my life at this point, and frankly my larger concern is that the content that interests me is going to be increasingly paywalled. I’m not exactly freeloading here either, as I answer posts and try to help out on the boards as I can.
I think the price point is a very personal decision. For some people $89/mo is like one more or one less SBux cup a few days a month, and for other folks that’s a higher threshold. We shouldn’t shame people on price.
Realistically a multi-part series could span a month boundary and you may need two months and then have tor remember to cancel. And you presumably have to remain active to watch replays you missed while due to scheduling conflict with a work deadline. Right now a lot of the classes are mid-day US time.
That type of stuff becomes a headache, which is why companies like subscriptions over one-time payments, because people get too busy to cancel, or cancel after they’re really annoyed that they forgot to do it and that creates a lot of bad energy and brand taste.
You either want to have a subscription price where people remain subscribed for the year, or offer a token system where you pay as you go.
$89 * 12 = $1,068, a quarter of the way to your Flame license
I’m not against Pro by any means. I did subscribe to give it a try. But it was either keep my $89 fxphd or keep $89 Pro, not both after giving it a try. For the time being I’m keeping fxphd and I remain a patreon supporter. fpxhd does cover some valuable non-Flame stuff for me. All this is more straight forward to single app artists. If you work with multiple apps, these subscriptions multiply like rabbits.
One big growing pain is to decouple the fantastic community we have here from Pro. Right now it’s driving a decent size wedge and makes it a first and second class community. That’s a bit unfortunate, and we’ll see how it evolves.
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That’s funny because I feel FX/PhD hasn’t had much in the area of new classes in quite a while. Right now, Logik Pro is pumping out material, and it’s really good.
I think the other thing that separates the two services is the direct interaction you get when you’re on one of the Logik Pro’s live sessions. If Finn is going over a complex color theory that is way above my pea brain, I can ask him, right then and there, to clarify. On PhD I never seemed to get the answers to my questions.
I do agree that FxPhD does offer a wider scope of classes, but they tend to fall heavily on classes that are years (or decades in Flame’s case) old.
Completely understand. Everyone is a different place and has different gaps they’re trying to fill. As @snacks said, it’s the perfect fit for him, and that’s fantastic.
I think that Logik Pro pro training is cheap. Think about how much it would cost to get a senior Flame artist sit with you for a day. It would exceed the annual cost of Logik pro.